‘Stop Killing Games’: Demands for game ownership must also include workers’ rights (theconversation.com)

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[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No. This is dumb. Activist movements get nowhere when they broaden their goals to encompass all things that would be nice to have. They become nebulous and impossible to appease.

Stay simple, stay focused. Win one battle at a time. Stop killing games.

[+] EarMaster@lemmy.world -12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The original petition is already pretty nebulous and without specific demands. Leaving it in a reasonably functional (playable) state is such a broad claim you can as well extend it to other demands.

I will accept any amount of downvotes for this, but please come back in 5 years and tell me I have been wrong.

[-] MurrayL@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

While I agree that the current state of SKG is painfully light on ideas for practical implementation, it is at least focused on a single issue.

A plan could be arrived at.

Trying to tack on tangentially-related stuff like workers’ rights is only going to get the whole thing bogged down in conflicting discussions.

[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

The funny thing is: The campaign relies on politicians to define the final implementation of this. That will most likely fail spectacularly. Adding worker rights to it will most likely increase the chance of success, because at least that is something they have experts for...

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's still inherently more specific than 'that plus nebulous notions of workers rights'.

Also, that's not nebulous in terms of end user expectation, that's just nebulous in terms of technical implementation.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

And it needs to be, because being specific could run into legal issues, such as if you require the server binaries to be available, you're now violating copyright. The law should specify the result, not the process to get there.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

The law is specifying the end user result. Keep the game we bought available to play in the way we bought it.

Questions about server binaries and copyright are implementation details for companies to work out.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

Reading through the article, they aren't just proposing to widen the SKG movement beyond its original intent (which is already a bad idea). They're proposing that "more clear labelling of what a customer is paying for" is enough. Fuck that noise, and fuck these asshats. The core of the problem is that people currently aren't allowed to irrevocably own and use what they paid for.

This article proposes that companies should be allowed to pay lip service by just advertising that they're selling a "revocable license" which is already what they do. This "journalist" can kick rocks, because they clearly don't care about actually fixing problems

[-] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Lol no.

If you want workers' rights get your own movement started, you don't get to come shit up the initiative others have set up for an entirely different purpose.

[-] AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

And reasonably-priced love!
And a hard boiled egg!

[-] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

WE SHOULD ALSO BRING BACK PRETZEL DAY

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