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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

To be fair that truck is unsafe at any speed.

Even sitting in the parking lot people bash their legs on the tow hitch.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

bash their legs on the tow hitch

I doubt that very much, see as it's practically at eye-level.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The height actually makes it worse cause they will often have a drop hitch to get low enough to meet the trailer, this tends to make it even less noticeable that there is a hitch at shin level.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Okay, maybe their arms

[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

At the rate many pedestrians are locked into looking down at their phones, eye level obstructions are maybe more dangerous.

[-] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, it is a Dodge so it is likely broken down and needs an engine or transmission, or both.

[-] No1@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

I can hear the 'Hemi tick' all the way from Australia.

[-] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I'd say the speed limits on ebikes are primarily there for the safety of the operator, not others. Pretty much all cars nowadays have similar electronic limits.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

For instance my wrangler is limited to about 80 through the engineering of a low power engine and the wind resistance of a cardboard box.

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The electric bicycle doesn't require a license to use. Supposedly you have been properly trained in the operation of a vehicle and are licensed to use it before getting behind the wheel. Supposedly. In reality the DMV hands licenses out like Halloween candy.

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

The arguments made for bicycles being speed limited make sense, because it's not just about licensing requirements (what precious few there are...) but also mechanical limits on safe operation and a need to find a balance between individual freedom and public safety.

This is also the reason why, in Europe at least, all trucks have a 90 km/h governor by law, even though truck drivers are licensed to a higher standard than car drivers.

Cars being excluded from the conversations we are having about trucks and bicycles and motorcycles is nothing but pure hypocrisy. But then again, when has hypocrisy ever stopped a politician?

[-] kungen@feddit.nu 2 points 1 week ago

I've got a license to drive heavy-weight vehicles, I should be allowed to ride my ebike at 90km/h, pretty please?

[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Get a scooter or motorcycle then? You absolutely should be able to drive a high speed 2 wheeled vehicle if you have the training and one safe to travel that speed.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

I hit 50 MPH on downhills on my regular human-powered bicycle. Don't need a license or training for that either.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

We're mostly trained to drive at 60kmph and not 150kmph, yet there's no limiter at 90kmph.

But yes i agree, these rule are to protect the rider, not others, just like the mandatory helmet rule on moped and motorcycle.

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[-] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Which one of these vehicles expects to be operated in pedestrian spaces?

I don't know why this is so hard. Cars should also have speed limiters, and the reason they don't is bullshit tradition. As we invent the next paradigm in personal transportation we shouldn't be making the same mistakes. I really can't imagine how anyone could disagree with this unless they are acting in bad faith.

The existence of ebikes doesn't depreciate the existence of motorcycles or mopeds. If you want a motorcycle or moped then get one, but don't pretend it's ok to ride it on bike paths.

[-] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

Cars operate in pedestrian spaces all the time.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Furthermore, in contrast to a car, I see people in bycicles and even ebikes far less willing to brake for any obstacles or civilians in their path. This is because they are less adept at accelerating and braking, so they want to conserve momentum above all else. They also have less visibility at a glance given how bad or completely absent most bicycle mirrors are, and maintaining stability, having to operate the pedals, and having to turn your head and body far more often while being in a far more uncomfortable position makes for a far more stressed operator.

I've always considered it absurd that scooters can't have seats in a lot of countries, this is the one thing bicycles and ebikes get right and it allows for a safer ride with the possibility to rest from the stress of it. Being able to walk and use the road shouldn't be a vehicle training issue, it should be road education training issue. Speed, that is one that varies significantly, like Germany's autobahn shows. Cars can receive traffic tickets and revoking licenses. On an ebike, there isn't a license to revoke, and 25km/h is already considerably dangerous to bystanders, specially coming from a vehicle that far from being designed and tested for collisions is a mesh of protruding elements instead that also has the absence of an insurance provider for when accidents do happen

This is fuck cars, don't expect common sense to predominate, people here hate cars as if they were in a religion dedicated to it. I wonder how many just live in a bubble of privilege where the countries are wealthy enough to have the carless transit infrastructure and their lifestyles are sedentary enough and localized in a sufficiently centralized urban hub where they can actually hold those beliefs.

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[-] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Ebikes typically have a speed limiter. That brodozer doesn't because they modded it.

However, some go fuck-all by rolling their own ebikes for higher speeds to get around license restrictions normally needed for a motorcycle.

[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Plus one of them doesn't blow exhaust into the face of the rider on the other one. I know I'd take the one that doesn't have exhaust.

[-] Naz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

I actually think the point of this lifted truck is to kill pedestrians; a lot of people LARP running people over and getting away with no consequences.

They also usually own firearms.

So should you (and know firearms safety)

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

They also usually own firearms.

So should you (and know firearms safety)

This guy gets it.

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Both? Almost all cars have speed limiters because the tires they ship with arent rated for higher speeds.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

A truck like that probably only can do 100mph maybe 120mph. A governor wouldn’t kick in until like 150mph. Most of the cars I have seen where it matters have a “track mode” to turn it off anyway.

The speed limit seems to be 105 according to google. Speed limiter removed looks like about 120? It may be a a brick, but 300 HP is still 300HP. As long as it's got reasonable gearing it should easily exceed 100mph. With half the power (and cylinders) my Outback can do faster than that, and it ain't exactly aerodynamic.

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[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

The truck doesn’t have a motor at all. It’s got an engine.

[-] Stosh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

that will be the bike

[-] HiddenPotential@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

death machine to compensate for no life

[-] jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

The limiter on an ebike also protects the 14 year old kid riding it from going too fast. If it didn't have limits then it'd be an electric motorbike that would need licencing, insurance, roadworthiness etc.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

OK but I'm not 14 nor are most of the people riding electric bikes. You can voluntarily put a limiter on it if your kid is riding it.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What does the 14yo have to do with licensing, insurance and roadworthiness?

It's totally possible to put age restrictions on activities without requireing licensing, insurance or anything else. You don't need a license or insurance to drink, for example.

[-] BussyCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

But it’s also illegal to be drunk in public

I don’t know about you but I would very much like there to be restrictions on the size and speed of vehicles in bike lanes and I have personally witnessed a ton of assholes riding the good ol dui-cycles blasting 30mph on a multiuse path with pedestrians and normal cyclists. All that does is turn what are supposed to be safe paths into another area where you can injured my a motorized vehicle.

We already have requirements for motorized vehicles and the whole purpose of the max speed on the bikes is so that they aren’t considered mopeds which have had regulatory requirements for decades

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

But it’s also illegal to be drunk in public

If you live in a puritanic theocracy, then this is true.

We already have requirements for motorized vehicles and the whole purpose of the max speed on the bikes is so that they aren’t considered mopeds which have had regulatory requirements for decades

Look up why moped regulations (including speed limiters and speed limits) were introduced.

It was done because car lobbyists wanted to make sure that mopeds sucked bad enough that people would continue to buy cars instead of smaller, lower power vehicles.

[-] Hobo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Look up why moped regulations (including speed limiters and speed limits) were introduced.

It was done because car lobbyists wanted to make sure that mopeds sucked bad enough that people would continue to buy cars instead of smaller, lower power vehicles.

Do you have a source for this claim? I tried to look it up but just got the justification (to keep them under the motorcycle classification). I don't really doubt you but verification would be nice.

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[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Well if you try to drive a RAM too fast it will blow up for throw a wheel off or something.

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