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[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My favorite part is this is exactly what the dems are doing with Trump, their startegy since the beginning was not to stop Trump and just wait for him to ruin the country enough that people vote for them again. They were saying as much earlier in the year too. Hilarious to see how they called all their detractors accelerationist before deciding to join in.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Are you talking about pre election? Of course you can do something about Trump by not electing him. After Trump won, there’s nothing left to do except let him show everybody why it was a bad idea.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

After Trump won, there’s nothing left to do except let him show everybody why it was a bad idea.

"Let the fascist burn down society unopposed" is not exactly a fucking recipe for anything except empowering fascism.

People don't touch the hot stove and learn their fucking lesson. People touch the hot stove and blame the liberals for burning them.

There is no effective opposition plan to fascism that involves ceding uncontested control to fascists

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

When I hear comments like this, I think that in your eyes democracy is optional when you have somebody like Trump in office. He’s clearly a fascist, so democrats need to arrest him and put a democrat in charge.

If you belong to a party that values democracy, you need to recognize that the fascist is an elected officials and do what you can legally do to maintain control and make sure the voters know who is to blame.

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Stupidity knows no ideological borders, it would seem

[-] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

no? literally no leftists side with maga (except for maga communism, but that's fringe).

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

no? literally no leftists side with maga (except for maga communism, but that’s fringe).

You're not reading the extremely simple comic very well, then.

Dems worked against Trumps opponents in 2015 in the hopes that the electorate would see how bad Trump is and deliver an easy Dem win. It didn't work like that.

Leftists have been quite openly on here salivating over how working against Kamala and delivering Trump, and Trump being nakedly bad will lead to either the American people or the world as a whole seeing just how bad neoliberalism is, and deliver the long-awaited Revolution(tm). That's just as fucking stupid.

[-] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

openly

Any examples? besides some people who don't want to vote dem?
Besides, the democrats are the neoliberal party. Trump is closer to fascism.

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[-] wuffah@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Once, I nihilistically mentioned to my friend that “I welcome the coming inevitable nuclear holocaust.” His reply was something that I will never forget: “I don’t think you realize what nuclear war entails.”

I haven’t wished for the end of the world since.

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[-] Nougat@fedia.io -1 points 1 week ago

I don’t know what’s coming after this; better, worse, another version of the same.

I’m just tired of waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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[-] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago

I'm honestly yet to meet anyone, online or otherwise, who genuinely advocates for the end of society as part of the movement's program. The vast majority of revolutionary movements don't build from the ashes of society, but rather seek to transform it.

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[-] optissima@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago

The deaths are already happening under the current ideology and are endless until stopped.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Oh cool, that's totally a real and valid reason to embrace murdering as many people as possible.

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

Who's planning on murdering as many people as possible? Seems like someone writing a fantasy villain and not at all related to reality.

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago

What are you even arguing about.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

"Present situation bad" is not a fucking reason to advocate for the collapse of society, which literal millions of people will die in the course of.

I didn't realize that I had to fucking trace out that the collapse of society is bad, but I guess the OP was just too subtle.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub -1 points 1 week ago

For each 1000 ideologies in people's heads, 100 can be somewhat decently explained, 10 can be understood by others and only 1 works for some time.

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