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[-] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

How bout we enslave this fucking nazi turd. Drag his fat fucking ass around, go full mussolini.

[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

after 200 years, the house finally lives up to its name.

[-] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[-] shish_mish@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Should not be so negative?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No no no. My Good'ole'Boy high school curriculum told me the slaves were forced off the Plantation by the mean Union thugs in their War Of Northern Aggression.

Clearly, this picture is just out of context or propaganda or idk he was clearly doing drugs and the police were just trying to help him out but he wouldn't stop resisting.

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Robert E. Lee, the hero of the south, tortured his slaves so savagely that his own slave overseer was disgusted and refused to participate. Which leads me to believe that the scars seen in this photo should be considered "within reason."

See? Bright side to everything if you're enough of a monster.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

and that's not even getting into lynching picnics for the whole family, or community, cannibalism, using hair and other body parts of slaves to make medical devices, furniture, or decoration, and who can forget sexual slavery, raping slaves and selling the resulting children into slavery, many first hand accounts from slaves talk about constant sexual abuse. so it's not ALL just torture and mutilation of living people, or dehumanizing them in every way imaginable.

and one of the big fat myths of slavery, the docile happy slave. Never happened, slaves were very frequently rebelling, trying to organize to over throw their masters, and creating a whole systems of escape. There was no happiness in slavery, it a daily power struggle to suppress slave revolts and uprisings, and keep slaves in a constant state of fear and terror.

[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Trump feuding with a history museum. You'd think that would sound the 'fascist' alarm to his supporters, but seems like nothing will.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Conservative idiots like Trump want to white (heh) wash slavery because they want to bring slavery back. Not just for black people, but of course especially for black people first, but also for all the other poors they think they can exploit to make themselves richer. Somehow they think everyone should be on board with this, and alas probably some subset of idiots will be even after they're already wearing the manacles themselves.

[-] bizarroland@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Stupid racist white people would be slaves and be saying, "I may be a slave, but at least I'm not a black slave."

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Slavery still exists in the US, it just now only mostly focused on African Americans. The Prison Industrial Complex is an abomination.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, it still exists as the "except as punishment for a crime" loophole in the 13th amendment. And when fascists are in power, they love to make any arbitrary thing a crime so they have a justification to imprison anybody.

Once they run out of farm workers due to having deported them all, expect Trump and his cronies to be super keen to staff those same farms using slave labor -- for profit, of course -- via just rounding up whoever else they don't like on phony charges.

[-] asmoranomar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You need to take the bad with the good, otherwise you'll never understand how far we've come. We hold on to slavery to remind us what it took, how efforts were not in vain, and to continue work on pushing for the things we believe in. We are here today because of the hardships we have endured yesterday. It's not "white guilt", it's to remind the world that slavery is bad no matter who does it, to teach us what it looks like, and that we all benefit from eliminating slavery, no matter the form it takes.

When we forget those things, we have things like the anti-vacc movement. People who have their own beliefs that fly in the face of reality, who've never had the experiences first hand, and to bend the notion of what is good. It rewrites the legacy of people's efforts, obscures the lessons used to fight, and trivializes the problems of the time. It manipulates both people and purpose and turns it against each.

My own opinion: Nobody feels guilty about slavery. There are only those that feel regret it's not still around.

[-] Una@europe.pub 3 points 1 month ago

Idk if you seen prageru, basically had a cartoon where Christopher Columbus said how "being slave was better than being dead"

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

(this ignores the thousands of taihno who committed suicide, choosing death over servitude, and how much work Colombus' men put into preventing others from choosing the same path)

[-] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

It's amazing how all these dumbasses look exactly the same. I knew exactly what she'd look like even before watching the video.

[-] weariedfae@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Fun fact I overheard! This is a thing in cults. It's something about a uniform appearance plus appearance policing (either overt or to fit in).

[-] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago
[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 month ago

I am so ready to go home and throw it in much trash Mormon mother's face. I hate that she buys into this shit.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

Epstein Files

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Slavery is negative for a reason.

[-] AlexLost@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Are you forgetting how good it was for all those slave owners though? They liked it a whole lot.

[-] iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

time to stomp some Nazi Republicans? please?

[-] JackLSauce@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The word "negative" doesn't appear once outside the title

[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Jfc. If this administration rewrites anymore history the US is going to just up and disappear. First it's oh slavery wasn't that bad, then its what slaves? We didn't have slaves. Then we go full circle and have slaves again

[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Who wants to buy Trump and put him to work cleaning gutter drains with his teeth?

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

I feel like the only way to teach them that slavery is wrong is to enslave them. I will personally volunteer to recreate the whipping scene from Roots for everyone who thinks slavery wasn't so bad. Starting with the orange.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They would just claim your form of slavery is not what slavery was actually like back then. These people don’t want to learn or improve themselves. They want to be able to say “I win” without having to actually do anything.

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I still think I would have a good time whipping them to death.

[-] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

Well, yes? The US has this strange fixation on slavery. It is a horrible practice that is believed to traumatize people for generations. While in reality the slavery was almost everywhere these times (if we don't focus on Europe). Maybe it's time to ask yourself, has the slavery really left this deep wound or maybe it was something else?

The problem is, this country is filled with slavery apologists like you. The only reason we have to keep reminding people how terrible slavery was is because people like you keep trying to normalize it, and it's fucking gross.

[-] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

slavery apologists like you

I am not from the US and have never been there. Sorry for not making this clear, but it's my impression as a bystander. Also slavery is horrible, we should never return to it, as if it wasn't that straightforward from the message.

because people like you keep trying to normalize it

In no way do I try to normalize it for today's reality. It used to be normal back then and we should never return there.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

US slavery wasn't the same as slavery from other regions for that time period.

While other imperialist nations had slaves (although many had ended it at some point earlier than the US did by a significant amount of time), they still viewed said slaves as humans, even if in some cases still lesser. They also had slaves from different nations and empires (this is relevant to the "viewed as humans" part).

In the US however, slavery was limited to only those considered of the "black race", and those people weren't considered humans. It's why the 1 drop rule existed too - basically, if you were any percent "black", you were considered "black" because you were essentially now seen as not fully human, but a hybrid.

This dehumanization meant that US slaves were treated far worse than any other slaves for the time period (in non war-time). To the point that slave owners even forcibly bred slaves for specific characteristics as if they were cattle - something that was never done in history as far as I'm aware by violent force, the closest being that one king in Europe who enslaved tall people and made them part of an elite "giants" army, where they got special treatment but could only have tall wives as well. This breeding program the US had was even one of Hitler's inspirations for his eugenics programs many years into the future.

This also meant that owners could kill slaves without repercussion in absolute - and that was a big distinction to other imperialist nations at the time as well. Yes, other empires would overwork and kill their slaves (the Spanish in the Caribbean especially), but they also couldn't just start killing wantonly without some type of repercussions from their monarchy, as some authority always still belonged to the crown state.

That was not the case in the USA. Killing your slave would be seen no different as killing your pigs or chickens. They were property in the absolute.

Another difference to most slavery in history is that you couldn't really escape slavery. In other empires or nations, you could escape by either literally escaping a province or because there was a year limit to how long you could be a slave. In some cases you could even buy your way out.

That also wasn't the case in the USA for the longest time, with the only methods of escape being making it to Canada or Southern Mexico / Central America. And if you did make it to Canada, getting kidnapped back to the USA wasn't unheard of.

But in all, the biggest effect was that slaves were 100% dehumanized in the US - something that was not the case anywhere else. US slavery wasn't just awful, but arguably the worst institutionalized forms of slavery in human history, especially including it's duration.

Now, as to why slavery is at the root of why there's still effects to this day, consider that slaves went from legally not being considered humans, to suddenly being humans by law. Do you think the millions who didn't see them as humans would change their views just as fast? Even after hundreds of years, there's still some that don't view them as humans, but many many more that think of them as lesser. Essentially, the mentality is of imperial Europeans 250+ years ago.

To downplay that, would be the equivalent of Germany deciding to downplay the Nazi regime.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago

Oh no!! Maybe he should go back in time and prevent the developement of chatel slavery, if he's so worked up about the historical representation of slavery in-general.

That said, chatel slavery seems alive and well in the US Prison system. Maybe some of us really are too distracted by the history to bother fixing things in the present. Mr. Mangione allegedly might have something to say about it. Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention at that cookout, back on December 4th.

[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

chatel slavery seems alive and well in the US Prison system.

Considering the thirteenth amendment literally enshrined slavery into our Constitution... Yeah, it's alive and well.

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