iNaturalist said in the grape vine family which feels wild to me, if it is then having wild grapes growing around was not what I was expecting.
Automatic identification via PlantNet summary
Most likely match: Vitis aestivalis Michx.
| Common name | Scientific name | Likeliness |
|---|---|---|
| Summer grape | Vitis aestivalis | 65.38 % |
| European grape | Vitis vinifera | 7.77 % |
| Mustang grape | Vitis mustangensis | 7.52 % |
| Amur grape | Vitis amurensis | 2.88 % |
| Porcelain Berry | Ampelopsis glandulosa | 0.83 % |
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Thanks bot! Sure does seem it's grape related!
You'll only see grapes on "new growth" btw, that's why vineyards chop them all down every year.
If you want to get rid of them, you'll need to dig the roots up out of the ground, they won't be deep. But if you miss a little piece, it's gonna grow back.
I'll let the family friend know we gotta pull them out next time he's over to help mow! I might be able to pull out the one in the photo, but there's others.
Never knew they planted new every year, that's cool!
Yeah, good news is the roots are very shallow, will look like a gnarled piece of driftwood in shape.
The bad news is a piece the size of a tiny twig will still put out new vines. So it very hard to completely get rid of them. I have grapes coming up all over my property because it came with a tiny vineyard and nature is gonna do it's thing.
The easiest way is to follow the vines back to the ground to find the root, then dig the whole thing out. But if you leave some in one area intentionally, or a neighbor is growing them, it's going to keep spreading as birds and animals eat the grapes then poop the seeds out.
Ahhh overall it'll be fine. They aren't the worst thing in the backyard, it'll just now be something we probably have to do every year.
There's an abandoned property behind us and there are vines back there so it is what it is! At least I know beyond a doubt it ain't poison ivy or the like!
That's clearly a Tree Star
That's crazy to me, I thought all grapes had to be grown grafted because the root systems couldn't handle something something at a vineyard. I guess it just means that booze grapes can't grow in the wild naturally.
It's not that, it's that for industrial scale you need them to be "established"...
You can do that by planting and waiting years (maybe decades) for the "good grapes" to become established, or you can just graft the new species onto existing root structures every spring. Allowing you to change year to year what you grow.
Stuff like OPs pic could have a root structure the size of a tiny stick. And they come up naturally all the time. It'll still produce some grapes, just not at the scale of a for profit vineyard who's root structures have had 20+ years to grow.
European grapes (which most wine is made from) were devastated by phylloxera in the 19th century, and since then they've been grown on American grape root stock which is resistant.
Ahhhhh... That sounds exactly like what I was told I just forgot the part about European grapes thank you.
In case you dont know and have an iphone…. It will automatically identify plants if you take a picture like this and click the i for info.
No iphone! Just an extremely old cheap android.
Cool. My phone says its “grape” so it agrees with the naturalist.
There are several Android apps that identify plants. I sometimes use Leaf Snap. Plain old Google Lens (reverse image search, basically) does a decent job too.
I've been using iNaturalist which will generally have a category! And sometimes another user tells me more. But not about plants normally. The users like identifying animals more.
Not an expert but I started grapes this year. Looks like a bigger version if mine. Build a trellis and start training it. Next year trim a little with 2 to 4 main stems off the trunk. Third year start eating grapes. Fourth take cuttings and start another plant. Repeat. More grapes. Eat grapes off first plant for about 10 years, have 5 more plants in that time. Eat more. Plant more. Start making wine. Get drunk, eat more grapes. Die of liver infection. Maybe don't go too far.
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