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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 44 points 7 months ago

Zoom also makes their folks work on site.

Guess they don’t like their own dog food

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Let the punishment fit the crime

[-] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago

It’s the developer way. Being in office means that the team will never live with the consequences of their shit code. They’ll never fix the 10 things that annoy people every day because they don’t use it. But hey, at least they can all go to lunch together.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

at least they can all go to lunch together.

Until they get a new manager who decides they have to stagger their lunch breaks

[-] blarghly@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Realistically, Teams would still get tons of use from people using the IM function so they don't have to leave their desk, and the video chat function to facilitate meetings between coworkers in different offices.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 19 points 7 months ago

Management lives in a fantasy world of vibes and bullshit. They don't care about the workers, the product, or the users. They are insulated from consequences.

The mega corporations need to be broken up, and replaced by smaller, worker-owned, organizations.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago

I work for a fairly large company and I'm constantly surprised by how much shit I do just does not matter. Me and a coworker have been working on a large project and have had to push it back several times now so that we are almost 3 months behind at this point and there are 0 consequences because none of the bigwigs are affected by it. Then as soon as someone high enough on the chain decides to give a shit half or organization will be expected to drop everything else and get it done.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 0 points 7 months ago

smaller, worker-owned, organizations.

Mondragon tried that, it seems to mostly work. I think the keyword is smaller, companies don't know how to grow without hiring idiots who then become in charge.

[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago

Thank you. The only example I've had prior was British Telecom.

[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Volkswagon was similar for a while until the monied class realized someone, somewhere was making money without them and bought their way into a controlling position. Still have significant, though no longer controlling union ownership.

[-] gressen@lemmy.zip 14 points 7 months ago

Seriously, what are my options if I want to migrate to something less insane? Our small team today uses Teams, SharePoint and many of the MS 365 Business Premium tools they offer.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If you don’t mind self hosting Mattermost is a pretty great replacement. Comes with some neat productivity tools and integrates with a lot of services including Microsoft stuff.

You can even have a bridge to Teams so you can set it up for the sort of nerds who appreciate full Markdown support with syntax highlighting.

To sell it to your boss, just say “If Teams is down, how will we get it working again?”

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

My last company went to Zoom, funny enough, months before COVID hit and we all went WFH. I was the administrator and was thrilled with it. We used Google for identity management, clicked right in with some simple setup. Not sure how it plays with your MS ecosystem, but I'd bet money it's every bit as easy to tie your MS accounts to it.

We had a few clients and vendors that would suck us into Teams and Google meets and they fucking sucked. I honestly can't remember a single complaint I had with Zoom's software. Tech support was superb at the start, dropped drastically once they exploded in size with WFH and COVID. No idea how it stands now.

[-] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Google Chat is... acceptable. But its still invasive.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I always loved slack. Unless something changed in the past few years it's great.

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

They don't even dogfood their own technology. Why should you pay for their stuff?

[-] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

Advocating person to person contact for higher productivity, while at the same time celebrating less personal contact because A.I. can take over support calls.

[-] bytesonbike@discuss.online 5 points 7 months ago

So these assholes made Teams so bad they had to go back into office, and then they make it everyone else's problem?

[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago
[-] sicjoke@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Good work.

I immediately thought of this the moment I read the post.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 7 months ago
[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

They also made Microsoft Visual SourceSafe... not the first time they'd admit to making a useless product.

[-] JizzmasterD@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Have they considered the PWA though 🤷‍♀️

[-] troybot@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

What I'm gathering from this article is that the Teams team has teams on Teams

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