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I forgot to set a reminder so I'm a little late getting to this, but here we are again:

Are you a "tankie"?

Respond "yes" or "no", I'll collate results later

This process is being undertaken to determine if so-called "tankies" are conspiring to make you (yes, you) have a bad time on the internet!

vague or informal answers will be interpreted by the central authority (me). Only top level comments will be counted. I will not be providing further instructions or clarifications.

🤯

Link to previous results (very serious) hexbear / lemmy,ml

Link to previous "are you a tankie?" thread

I'll likely check back in a week, my old pc died so itll take a little bit of time to prettify the results and write a report

Ciao, and of course, imperialism must be destroyed.

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[-] redhilsha@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago

Tankie is when a third worlder socialist shares the most Milquetoast leftist opinion.

[-] Oppopity@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 6 days ago

"Tankies" don't exist.

People who unironically use the word "tankie" would say it's someone who uncritically supports communist governments, but if you ever look at someone using it, it's always because they are uncritically against all communist governments and so they interpret nuance or historical understanding as blind loyalty to communism.

[-] darthelmet@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Probably? At least in the sense that I’ve managed to gather from the very confused online arguments about the term. I’m a communist. While I’d love it if we could all peacefully vote our way into a better society, I recognize that it’s probably not going to happen and whatever nastiness we’d have to do to actually make the change is worth moving past the endless awfulness that is capitalism. And for the existing countries, while they’re not magical Christmas lands, I’ve learned they’re not quite as bad as the capitalists have fear- mongered.

And I get Anarchists thinking it’s states all the way down but…………. I don’t know what to tell you. What’s the alternative? Even if I want to get where you’re going, how do we get there? Where is the bus/train? I don’t see any running to get there.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago

Hey comrade, have you considered making an account on Lemmy.ml, Lemmygrad.ml, or Hexbear.net? Lemmy.world censors communist content, so you might at least prefer something like Lemmy.zip that can see the content communists are posting.

[-] darthelmet@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

How does that work? I assumed one Lemmy account covered everything. Where do I go for each of these?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Lemmy instances are kinda like islands, but you can visit and see other islands that are on good terms, or "federated." Federation can be one-way, ie you can see and comment on another instance's posts but they can't see yours, or it can be two-way, and you can comment back and forth. You are on Lemmy.world's view of a Lemmy.ml post. There are comments from Hexbear and Lemmygrad users on this post that I can see, but you can't, like this one.

Lemmy.world is defederated from Hexbear.net and Lemmygrad.ml, the two biggest communist instances. In order to see their content and interact with their users, you need an account on an instance like those two, or Lemmy.ml, Lemmy.zip, etc. You don't need one for each instance, just one federated with what you want to see.

Does that make sense?

[-] darthelmet@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So I just pick one of them and I'm good? Any suggestion which one to pick? Just the biggest?

EDIT: Also, am I able to just be logged into both so I can see both sides at the same time or do I have to swap back and forth if I want to check out world or the commy instances?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago

Well, what is it that you want? Do you want one account that can see almost everything? Lemmy.zip or Lemmy.ml would be better than Lemmy.world, and you can chat with Hexbear and Lemmygrad users as well as Lemmy.world users that way. Do you just want to talk with communists? Lemmygrad.ml or Hexbear.net might be a better fit, you won't be able to interact with Lemmy.world that way. You can see Lemmy.world content and comment on it from Grad, but they can't see your content. Hexbear defederated from .world so it doesn't even show up.

Personally, I use all 3 depending on what I want to do.

I recommend checking out this guide by a good Lemmygrad comrade!

[-] darthelmet@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Thanks. Do only some of the instances have an old version? I see one for lemmy.zip but it doesn't show up for ml or lemmygrad.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

I think? Not actually sure, really!

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[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago

Tankie is a pretty cool sounding word, so yes.

[-] limer@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yes.

That answer is only for my own country America, I do not have strong opinions for other areas and countries.

And I realize the term is broad, and gives connotations I do not intend.

A socialist movement that is backed by force, and not using democratic methods, would save far more lives than it would destroy.

Americans do not understand democracy because they do not understand, at a fundamental level, that ballot counts need to be witnessed and recounts always allowed.

They cannot be taught that. This removes reform by democracy.

But when reform is imposed on by force there are many who would disagree . So the revolution would need to defend itself. That means time and time again, this would happen repeatedly. And the cost would be horrible.

Of course my preferred solution would raise new problems, and a rise of a new elite would have to countered, and history shows that is hard. But I think because tens of millions of Americans will die if this revolution not happen, then it’s worth it

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago

"In many cases, to avoid conflict is to prolong suffering"

-Ture

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago
[-] sangeteria@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

Yes

(Or at least I hope so lol)

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[-] Inui@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago

no

I don't know enough about what happened in Hungary to even form an opinion on it and it isn't at all relevant to today. But I do have actual principles and oppose imperialism, so other instances will say so anyway.

[-] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I don't think so, I like USSR as a response to imperialism, current China is quite cool in many ways, but I don't automatically support whatever governments agrees on just cuz they're better than their competition.
Also Karl Marx was kinda genius, but not sure how he uses violence in his theory, of course a political theory must contain a corner for violence, but it is hard for me to trace what exactly was Marx's exact plan.

[-] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago
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