Yeah it’s way worse than when we used a Rolodex to remember phone numbers, kept a map book in the dash, and took 20 minutes to transfer birthdays from last years calendar to this years.
I am about as anti-AI as one can get, but this is a bit silly.
Yeah it’s way worse than when we used a Rolodex to remember phone numbers, kept a map book in the dash, and took 20 minutes to transfer birthdays from last years calendar to this years.
I am about as anti-AI as one can get, but this is a bit silly.
it reminds me of this:
Every newspaper there is also chock full of ads.
Don’t know why people think it’s a new thing. They were pretty intrusive for the time as well.
“Continued on page 9” is code for “people paid a lot of money for the ads on page 8”
No don't you dare stop the circlejerk! /s
But seriously phone numbers were broken into chunks of three to four digits to even make them something we could remember. Is it so terrible my brain has more space to remember other things instead of strings of numbers?
There are valid arguments for knowing how to use a paper map. We’re fortunate that GPS was opened up to the world, and we’ve flourished for it, but one very bad solar storm and it’s possible we’ll be back to paper for regional and farther navigation.
A gps is a paper map on the computer with the feature that shows your location on the map.
There's nothing to learn. The gps voice prompt takes the place of the passenger who's job it was to voice prompt you.
A gps is a paper map on the computer with the feature that shows your location on the map.
a gps is an planet covering realtime map pinpointing your location and destination, things a traditional map DOES NOT DO.
fuck mate a map only gives you orientation, you still have to know where north is for it to be any use.
There’s nothing to learn. The gps voice prompt takes the place of the passenger who’s job it was to voice prompt you.
a navigator... SAY THEIR FUCKING NAME, THEY WERE NAVIGATORS, IT WAS AN ENTIRE CAREER LOL
can't tell if this is all satire and I'm overreacting but holy shit I'd love to see this generation do some orienteering.
Chill out dude, they're talking about a road atlas here, not aviation or long distance trucking or whatever.
This is like getting angry about not calling them switchboard operators when they're talking about the telephone book.
take a hike. get lost.
don't understand how maps work, you're in a tight spot.
you do you lol
Again, not what they were talking about.
Fly a plane. Get in the sights of a Messerschmitt 262 Schwalbe.
Don't understand potential energy, you're in a tight spot.
You do you lol
“AI” as in the common LLMs that most people think of doesn’t remember anything new for us and doesn’t invent anything new.
The best it can offer is a mathematical chance to make an inference that we might not have already, based on whatever it was trained on. It’s a dice roll on insight, and the house always wins.
Please tell me you see the irony of this comment.
Why we should kill each other
So, I'm going to start this on two things I've seen degrade in people who grew up with computers as a primary source of information versus a secondary source.
First, I've seen the ability to look through a document degrade over time as younger people have gotten used to Ctrl+F. The ability to manually look up and scan through a document has degraded. Also, I've seen people will then hyperfocus on the paragraph at the detriment of skimming the page.
Second, the ability to read not perfectly legible text has degraded as well. If the document is a poor scan or bad print handwriting, younger people have to practice the skill of reading it which was usually assumed to be had.
So, where do I think this will go in the future with AI?
First, I'm seeing AI used a lot to summarize and those results are being trusted. I see a future where younger people won't have that ability to process and summarize data because they will be out of practice.
Second, I see the ability to write is going to degrade since people will be out of practice as people rely on AI to write for themselves. That lack of practice is going to have major impacts to critical thinking skills.
Well reasoned. Reading to get an overview and summarise is already a skill going away in the new breed of researchers.
With phone books, we don't memorize phone numbers any more, we rely on drawn maps to tell us where to go and calendars reminds us of birthdays. What else will we stop remembering once ~~AI~~ paper remembers everything for us?
The way it’s going…
AI: Happy Birthday! Other notable people who share your birthday: Adolf Hitler, Mussolini, Charlie Kirk, and many more great historical figures you should hope to praise!
Sounds like something Grok would say.
How to disagree with people politically but remain friends
While this is an understandable sentiment, expressing this today means different things than 10 years ago.
Should we "remain friends" with those that support an administration that deports people to foreign countries without trial? Is it "just politics" when people are ok with a president that is attacking free speech and freedom of the press? With a president deploying the military to cities with Democrat mayors? I don't think so. We're talking about freedom and the future of our country. If you support such corruption and destruction of our democracy, we can't be friends.
most people don't care about any of that. they are more focused on the local sports team, their schedule at work, their kids sports games and a million other things.
i mean you can grandstand all you want about it... but it won't ever change those people's minds. they have other shit to worry about that federal politics, which is largely background noise to them.
your error is thinking other people think about politics like you do. they don't. they don't think about it at all.
Apparently showing the tiniest speck of empathy is grandstanding now.
and thinking anyone who doesn't agree with you political lacks empathy is the height if ignorance and arrogance.
the question is who the empathy is for. you direct yours to certain groups and not others.
Way to put words in my mouth, I didn't say any of that. My point was that there are people who can't ignore politics because they're being targeted by this administration. For some reason you've decided to focus on the people with the privilege to ignore all the atrocities committed day in and day out. Seems like some messed up priorities to me.
With the movie, people will forget how to read.
With the printing press, people will forget how to write.
With the book, people will forget how to remember.
With writing, people will forget how to talk.
Side note: people don't talk like they used to. It's not writing that did this, it's the online forums. As people immersed more and more in online only communications, I've seen their morals and self regulation fail. People talk similar to how they comment online: trash without a filter
LLMc can't remember anything. It's all an illusion based on systems that have existed for decades.
Like, people used rely Rolodex's and calendars to remember phone numbers and birthdays, respectively. In other words, we used to write things down. When I left Facebook, I did literally go through their calendar and write down all my friends birthdays.
Navigation is a skill you have to learn. When I was an EMT, my FTO drilled the basics in to me. I can find my way to a city Ive never been, but I still use a GPS to find a specific place off the major cross streets. People used to give more advice with the destination, now they just say, "oh, come to this XXXX address place" because they assume youll be using a GPS, and the skill to describe "its off of this road" is both becoming lost, and a generational disconnect.
My father was a pro at driving without gps. Now he can't go 2 blocks without assistance from it
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