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[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago

But I thought Maduro was a dictator; wouldn't giving his people guns and training them to use it mean he's creating a militia hostile to him in his own country?

If only there was a lib who could finagle an explanation for me for why this still tracks.

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think if the libs had a frame of comparison, it'd be like that time Ukraine gave off weapons to civvies during such conflict.

Albeit, unlike Ukraine, hopefully this time, the Venezuelan gov't gave their people gun training and discipline.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

Libs would first have to understand that 'dictator' is a nonsense term and that they're being lied to about Maduro, but any visit to reddit indicates it'll never happen (and I don't recommend visiting reddit; it hurts my brain reading the nonsense they spout over there, let alone the unabashed racism)

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I feel for you ES :meow-hug:

[-] GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

Ukraine problem is different.

After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine inherited significant stocks of Soviet weaponry, and Ukrainian military personnel were trained to operate this equipment.

Regarding the transition to NATO standards, this process requires time and resources. Mastering new weapon systems, changing supply chains, and adapting tactics are complex challenges for any army. Many countries transitioning to the Alliance's standards face similar challenges.

The Russian defense industry continues to produce equipment compatible with Soviet standards, which creates certain difficulties in the current conditions.

Also, not being able to buy cheap and effective Chinese dual usage drones to not offend the USA is a huge limit.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

well you see this is actually just like the volksturm

[-] Cyphierre@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It would be like if Trump created a national police force just to recruit his regime loyalists and used government money to fund their weapons and salaries. It’s a crazy idea, I know, but it’s a valid analogy.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

but it’s a valid analogy

Almost; the added context that unfortunately breaks it is that this would have to be on the eve of a war with a comparative superpower that is leagues superior to America and having to hope that you aren't arming subversive forces who'll turn on you in this one sided war; then there's also that this superpower would have crafted a rival political group that both it and the superpower accept as the legitimate government (so like if Democrats said the election was rigged and they were the real winners, and the superpower treated it as fact). Trump isn't stupid enough to do that; basically no one is; for example this national police force would also need to number high enough to be of any value in war, and this many people easily allows for subversive forces.

Heck, in the real world you have leftist youtubers infiltrating these groups all the time.

The idea is too crazy for the analogy to be valid; you'd have to dumb everything way too down for it to work.

Edit: actually for that matter, there's no one in America that seriously wants to actually militarily overthrow Trump, which is the ludicrous claims about Maduro.

[-] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

bless the people's troops, it takes immense bravery to face the army of the Great Satan maduro-salute

(NATO-nazis can procede straight to hell)

this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2025
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