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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by MF_COOM@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

See Day 1 here

Cryptic crosswords are famously difficult to learn because they have their own logic that you kind of need someone to teach you before you can participate. They're kind of like a Rubik's Cube, in that if you don't know anything about how it works it seems totally impossible, but with a little basic instruction most people can participate on some level.

I'm going to use https://www.minutecryptic.com/ puzzles over this week to teach anyone interested how to think about cryptic clues (unless this post sinks like a stone haha). I happen to have had several different friends who would take the time to explain to me how to read clues and then we'd solve them together. I'm going to explain how to read the above clue and let anyone who wants try to guess the answer (you can just follow the link and they'll give you successive hints, it's a good site for learning honestly.) I will spoiler tag any hints.

THE BASICS

THE STRAIGHT CLUE:

Every cryptic clue has a word or string of words at the beginning or end (but never in the middle) of the clue that acts like a regular crossword clue. A question mark at the end works like in a regular crossword clue, indicating that it'snot a straightforward reading of the clue, in the case of this clue we know from the start that we're looking for an 6-letter word that either means "slender", "strikers", "steel strikers" or possibly even "sharpened steel strikers". The last possibility would be a lot, but the question mark implies we should stay open to possibilities of funny stuff. This part of the clue is ALWAYS unrelated to the 'wordplay' part of the clue:

THE WORDPLAY:

The rest of the clue offers some way to create the answer to the straight clue by chopping up, rearranging and concatenating the other words in the clue (or their synonyms). This section can be much looser and obeys a series of different types of rules.

For example, a clue may ask you to make an anagram of an adjacent word (or words) by using an 'indicator' word like 'mixed up', 'crazy', 'damaged', 'in a storm', etc. (This is often the easiest indicator for beginners, as once you get a sense there may be an anagram indicator, the next step would be to count letters in the words adjacent to the indicator and compare them to the letters in the answer.) Other types of indicators might suggest you remove letters from an adjacent word ('headless' may indicate removing the first letter, 'naked' might suggest removing the outer letters, etc) or put something inside a word ('containing' or 'protects' might suggest the preceding string would surround the following string to create the answer) and so on.

Slender shiny sharpened steel strikers

It is frustrating that on day 2 of my effort to teach beginners, Minute Cryptic chose one of the only clues I've ever seen that doesn't follow the above logic. This clue is what's called

spoileran "&lit" clue, in which all the words are part of the "straight clue" and all the words are part of the "wordplay".

So we're looking for a 6-letter word that

spoilera) means "slender shiny sharpened steel strikers" and b) is plural, since our clue is plural.

spoilerSince all the words are also part of the wordplay, another way to get to our answer is to find some way to describe all five words of our clue - as you can see they have something in common.

If you just want the answer you can click the link above, they supply incremental hints (and in this case an alternative clue), and they supply good explainer videos that explain the reasoning of the puzzle assuming you've already learned the answer, but if you want to have a go you can have a guess and I can tell you if you're right, but usually once you get the answer you know it's correct because it satisfies both parts of the clue.

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[-] thesa_bronto_saurus@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago

me forgetting how numbers work for a momentStaples??

The alternate clue on Minute Cryptic was significantly easier, though!

[-] abc@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago

me forgetting how numbers work for a momentit's a bat, it's a fucking bat

very-smart

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

spoilerStaples
has 7 letters, we need 6 haram.

Aside from that it would match the "straight clue", which is

spoilerthe entire clue
in this case.

However, we can't also construct that word in a second way through wordplay from all the words in the clue.

Hint:

spoilerthe correct answer will also be a description of all the words in the clue. When you see it, it will seem obvious, but of course it isn't.

The alternate clue on Minute Cryptic was significantly easier, though!

I agree!

[-] thesa_bronto_saurus@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

No, I know why it was a wrong answer, hence my spoiler title. It was just a momentary lapse.

Edit: Ohh okay I now am mentally reading the answer with a dash inserted and get the full wordplay (beyond just the pattern recognition).

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

Oh I get it now.

sankara-salute nice work comrade!

[-] thesa_bronto_saurus@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

re: first time being comrade'd

Is this is-this gender euphoria?

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago

At least they chose an easy one for this new clue

[-] BearerOfPickles@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Trying to avoid spoilers, but having never tried one before I felt I "got it" yesterday. This one is tricky or maybe I didn't "get it" after all.

My first/immediate thought was

spoilerHammer
But that isn't plural

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah this one definitely doesn't follow the standard cryptic pattern that I outlined yesterday, and it's annoying that the second day of this they chose an atypical clue.

You do see these in normal cryptic crosswords but I hadn't seen them to this one Minute Cryptic before so didn't think I'd need to get into it.

If it helps, Minute Cryptic offered an alternative clue with the same answer, you read the clue the exact same way I outlined above (i.e. the same special case type, breaks the rule of the straight clue having nothing to do with the wordplay), and it might be easier: it's

spoiler"Soldier's Scimitar, Samurai's Steel, Swashbuckler's Sabre!?"

[-] BearerOfPickles@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

Oh I've just read your comment! I just solved it but I'm not 100 per cent the logic follows. I had assumed it started with the letter s because of the alliteration, but maybe that isn't always the way. But reading your other example I do find it clearer. Thanks hombre

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

To be clear, the "straight clue" answer is

spoiler"SWORDS"
, and the "wordplay" answer is
spoiler"S WORDS"
, if that makes sense - as you can see both ways to read the clue lead you to the same answer. The answer didn't necessarily have to start with S.

This is their explainer vid

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago

Oh incidentally I just learned that Minute Cryptic indicates these &lit clues with the combination !? exclamation mark/question mark combo. Normal cryptic crosswords don't do that but that's good to know.

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

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