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A dilemma indeed
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Vermont?
Republican governor still, not as solid as you'd think.
He may be a member of the Republican party but if you just look at his record as governor, you'd probably guess he's a Democrat. Pro choice, trans rights, thoroughly anti Trump, and even a lot of his tax cuts seem to prioritize relief for the working poor rather than the ~~leech~~ investor class.
Also, this is anecdotal but I've spent some time in Vermont and the conservatives there who I met were by and large reasonable, open-minded, and anti-Trump (there were a couple of exceptions but nowhere is perfect).
Yeah Vermont is hippie hillbillies
Has a general prejudice against city people.
This is the way.
Outside of a college town.
Not always true, Kent (home of Kent State University) is bright red. I live a little ways south of Kent and I drive thru there a few times a year to visit a friend, every time I go through there it's maga merch everywhere.
These places exist, but they are expensive as fuuuuuuuuck
I live near Asheville and fucking hell you are not kidding. The price creep has spread out in a 60 mile radius and just keeps getting worse. I can't even afford to live in my hometown anymore.
Ann Arbor here. Can confirm.
Vermont.
And then you're just bored
Seattle, one hopes, is still green and bookish
Seattle has its own racism problem unfortunately
If you think Seattle's race relations are on the same level or even close to any red state then I sincerely doubt you've ever left Seattle or been to a red state.
There are racist people literally everywhere but not everywhere makes a culture out of being racist.
I lived in Texas most of my life. I wouldn't say race relations in seattle are as life threatening as they were capable of being in Texas but I would say racism is just as common.
Against any particular group?
From my observations, and from what I have been told from people of this group in seattle, mostly african americans. You'd have to hear from other marginalized groups for more info as I am not familiar with their experience. It's less of the explicitly violent and threatening racism you see in the south and more of the "you're so articulate" style of racism. Lots of pearl clutching and car door locking if you know what I mean.
Isn't this just universal in America? This sounds like liberal racism, not republicans
Yes but it is particularly common in the PNW
I feel like if you think Seattle fits the description of around trees that you just haven't ever been around trees before lol. It doesn't mean a couple sadly embedded in the sidewalk it means like as far as you can see
Perhaps you think I meant south of Lake Union. Understandable mistake. In north Seattle you can't sneeze without getting a tree wet. I spent most of my time in those parts.
I grew up just north of Seattle in Bothell only just recently moved out to the coast bit south of Aberdeen I have learned the meaning of tree lol. If I stand the top a large elevation I struggle to find buildings my vision is nothing but trees and Hills I feel like that's more what the post is talking about.
I live surrounded by tree as far as the eye can see in all directions, it's very much republican County though lol
What is this conversation? Seattle has trees. It has really good parks. Is this treemogging? It's obnoxious.
I was going to move to Portland but I hear it's a war zone lol
Yeah? Sounds like that's where people on the right side are needed, then.
Portland is a great city. I've been living in the UK for almost 4 years now and I've never been to a bookshop as good as Powell's, and the food there is at least twice as good as it ought to be, for what they charge.
Uhhhh... did you all not see that Mango just told the Space Force that they need to relocate from Colorado to Alabama? You wanna talk about a blue state that's going to go dark blue, look no further.
New England.
Atlanta. Just don't go past the perimeter.
There's some spots in the big nyc parks where you're surrounded by trees and can pretend you're not in a big city. That's all I've got.
Outside the city it gets surprisingly conservative sometimes. I knew someone who had family north of Albany, and their neighbor flew a confederate flag. Probably a maga flag now.
Asheville and Boone NC
Pacific Northwest and certain parts of the northeast
bunch of rural racists, mixed suburbs at best
East of the cascades it's all racism. But to the west I didn't encounter it much. But that may just be an anecdotal comparison to the actual shit holes I have lived in where racism thrived rather than lurked.
I traveled all over Oregon and Washington after living in the southeast.
What you say holds true but to a lesser degree than true red areas.
A lot of the people who consider themselves conservative would be relentlessly bullied for being a liberal if they moved to an actual red area.
It's funny because their utopian views of conservative areas mirrored my utopian view of Seattle when I lived in a conservative shit hole.
Houseless (Van Life) deep in a forest works pretty well for me
How....do you have internet? Van life seems so appealing but also so scary.
Cellular or Starlink are your only options, unless you include none (meaning libraries or public wifi).
The I-5 corridor of the Pacific Northwest.
Idk about the Washington part but the Oregon part would be Jefferson, so not exactly progressive, until you hit the Willamette valley which I've never been to but assume it's like the central valley here in CA and full of the most annoying conservatives constantly complaining about the big cities.
Eugene is in the Wallamette Valley and is a historically progressive city (despite it's origins), especially for LGBTQ+ people and communities. It's home to the University of Oregon which has a fairly diverse student body and faculty. Lots of "everybody is welcome" signs in shop windows, "hate has no home here" signs in people's yards.
Hop across the river and you're in Springfield, which is another story. Kind of a Tale of Two Cities thing. Much less wealth along with all the problems that tend to follow.
Live next to some bears, they'll keep the conservatives away.
I was gonna ask "which kind" but it's definitely both.
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