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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

AP

U.S. President Joe Biden is considering a trip to Israel in the coming days, though no travel has yet been confirmed.

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

— List of countries that have asked their citizens to immediately leave Lebanon:

  • Germany

  • Saudi Arabia

  • Canada

  • United States

  • United Kingdom

  • Australia

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago
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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Hezbollah once again strikes at a few Israeli bases, and hit a Merkava tank.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Macron will not come to Israel

The French President said he would visit the region only when a “useful agenda has been developed and concrete action has been taken” - The Times of Israel

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[-] FLAMING_AUBURN_LOCKS@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think any chance of the Brandon Regime walking the Middle East back from the brink might have just been destroyed by the hospital bombing. there’s no de-escalating after admitting the ~800 deaths at a hospital are your doing. this is going to force every involved parties’ hands. i really don’t want to see where this is going.

EDIT 1 DAY LATER: i don’t know why i expected anything other than a flimsy counternarrative spread with the help of the white house

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Rattled U.S. government fears wars could spread

U.S. officials say this confluence of crises poses epic concern and historic danger. Officials tell us that inside the White House, this was the heaviest, most chilling week since President Biden took office just over 1,000 days ago.

Former Defense Secretary Bob Gates — who ran the Pentagon under presidents of both parties, George W. Bush and Barack Obama — tells us America is facing the most crises since World War II ended 78 years ago.

These simultaneous threats are hitting at the very moment the American political system seems — and sometimes is — literally broken. Former top intelligence officials tell us domestic unrest is one of their biggest fears — whether it's triggered by court rulings against former President Trump or protests over war in the Middle East.

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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Alt of the imageTwo pictures. The one above shows an artistic representation of the last Chinese emperor turned communist, Puyi, holding up the little red book, with Mao and throngs of supportive Chinese comrades in the background. To his right seethes a crying wojak version of former general and prime minister of Imperial Japan, Hideki Tojo.

There’s a faux-scientific, “microscopic” amplification of the goings on inside Puyi’s head, which makes up the second picture on the bottom. It shows, in a battle of the emperors, JDPON icon Qin Shi Huangdi throwing a fireball at the head of the younger version of Puyi in a Street Fighter 2 type setting, with various characters watching in the background, such as little monkey Putin and Mr. Potadolph head (a Hitler version of mr. potato head).

By Slammer on blueskkky bird-mad

~~i still have codes nerds~~

I still have 1 code left nerds

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably a bit late reporting this but the anti-zionist demonstrators were thrown out of the capitol building by cops.

Not sure why they don't use lock on techniques to drag it out like we do over here.

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[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Honestly, if you call the situation complicated, please just ahead and call genocide complicated. Rip that whole mask off because that’s what you’re saying if we follow this comment to its logical conclusion

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[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Day 2 of asking for North Korea to declare a Juche Jihad against the illegitimate state of Israel

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This image but it's Iran and Hezbollah telling us when Israel has crossed its red lines and they're going to attack (with "days" replaced by "hours")

if anybody's good at photoshop or whatever and wants to take a crack at it then I'll make it the thread image

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

CW: Bodybags.

https://streamable.com/bobmch

The Archbishop Alexios of Tiberias of the Patriarchate of Jerusalem conducts funeral rites for the martyrs of the attack on Saint Porphyrius Church in Gaza

For the christians perhaps.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

A few days old but just a little bit biblical.

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

when this baby hits 88 9/11s per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pentagon employees have been tasked with sorting ammunition reserves previously intended for Ukraine to prioritize deliveries to Israel

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/19/us-israel-artillery-shells-ukraine-weapons-gaza

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[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

chicanery I AM NOT CRAZY! I am not crazy! I know they bombed that hospital! I knew it was a JDAM, it had the exact same sound signature- As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just- I just couldn't prove it! Th-they covered their tracks, they got the feds at Bellingcat to lie for them. You think this is something- You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? They’ve done worse! Sabra and Shatila! Are you telling me that an allied militia just happens to gun civilians down like that? No! They encouraged it! The IDF! They bombed a UN school! And the media ignored it! And they shouldn’t have- I got told they were the most moral army when I was a kid, what was I thinking? They’ll never change. They’ll NEVER change! Ever since the Nakba, always the same! Couldn't keep their bullets in their magazines! But not the IDF! Couldn't be our wholesome 100 IDF! Expelling them all! And their country gets to be recognized by the UN!? What a sick joke!

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

This war is going to be nothing like Ukraine. Just look at a relief map.

In the Hezbollah sector this is going to be a hill capturing war.

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

Zionist entity: Dropped a JDAM on a hospital killing hundreds of patients while lying to the world with a shit-eating grin

Hexbear: 200+ comment thread of Hey did you know not all Jews are Zionists

This is pathetic. And I checked the time. OP posted this concern-trolling right after the Zionists committed that heinous war crime. I'm surprised more people didn't call OP out for this very transparent attempt at directing attention away from the bombing. Literally pulling right out of the Zionist playbook as a form of misdirection.

The rest of Hexbear has Zionist apologists. They hide their Zionist apologia very well, perhaps even hiding the apologia from themselves, but it's there.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago
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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

Seeing reports that the Israeli embassy in Jordan is aflame

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[-] krammaskin@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

Rights group to prosecute Labour's Starmer for complicity in Israel's war crimes in Gaza

International Centre of Justice for Palestinians (ICJP) has today issued UK Labour leader Keir Starmer, Shadow Attorney General for England and Wales Emily Thornberry and Shadow Defence Secretary David Lammy with a notice of intention to prosecute UK politicians for their role in aiding and abetting Israel’s perpetration of war crimes.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231016-rights-group-to-prosecute-labours-starmer-for-complicity-in-israels-war-crimes-in-gaza/

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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

Nasser would have closed the Suez by now.

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[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

The Israeli government has announced what it has described as a "humanitarian zone" in southern Gaza.

In statements just published on X, the government's unit responsible for the "Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories" (COGAT) said Israel's defence forces has called on Gaza residents to evacuate to an area near the city of Khan Younis.

"The IDF calls on #GazaCity residents to evacuate south for their protection," COGAT said on X.

"Al-Mawasi is where international #HumanitarianAid will be provided as needed."

According to the United Nations' Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia, Al-Mawasi "is a Bedouin Palestinian town on the southern coast of the Gaza Strip, approximately one kilometre wide and fourteen kilometres long".

bruh

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[-] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

My spamming of the palestinian aid thread will continue in as many Megas as you can create, Mr Hexbear. YOu can't silence me

https://hexbear.net/post/816379

fr though, come check out some of the great orgs doing work on the ground and consider donating, if you're in a position to do so

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

A revolt is brewing at the State Department over US policy in the Middle East.

This is reported by the Huffington Post.

It is reported that US diplomatic officials are preparing an appeal to their leadership criticizing the position that Washington has taken on the issue of worsening the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

The initiators of the appeal consider US policy to be one-sided - in favor of Israel while ignoring the suffering of Palestinian civilians.

Participants in the petition also complain that Secretary of State Blinken and his advisers are not addressing "widespread domestic discontent." According to another State Department official, a rebellion is brewing in the department at all levels.

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[-] Kaputnik@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

Trudeau kkkanada says he is not ready to accept US and Israeli claims that a Palestinian group was responsible for the hospital attack

Cmon now's the time make a statement supporting Palestine, make your dad proud fidel-sarcastic

Also he could make this his moment to piss off the USA like his other dad Pierre did with Cuba

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[-] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Getting really fucking tired of the shit I’m putting up with regarding a high school friend badeline-jokerfied

Give me talking points because in an hour or so I’m going to be screaming at him for his utter detached callousness towards the hospital bombing and I want to sound coherent doing it badeline-disgust

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[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

anglo-burn news is trying to Orwell the missle strike on the hospital into a memory hole by deliberately using "blast" instead of strike, attack, deliberate or any wording that hints Israel did it.

It's so fucking obvious seeing them all in lock step be stooges and complicit this genocide.

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[-] MrBeerbelly@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

Reddit recommended r/Destiny to me for some reason, and I found the worst people alive

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

Antisemites 🤝 Zionists

Thinking Joe Biden is an honorary Jew

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

The only representatives worth voting for:

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[-] theother2020@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

China builds ships more than twice as fast as the US.

some-controversy

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago
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[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

how do anti-BDS laws even work? Like, is the police gonna force you to buy SodaStream carbonators?

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

Reports that hamas managed to pull off some sort of kidnapping operation. They are still doing infantry actions outside gaza.

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 57 points 1 year ago

Daniel Noboa wins Ecuador presidential election

heir to a banana fortune

Uh

hard line on rocketing violent crime, employment for the young and foreign investment

Oh fuck

Harvard Kennedy School graduate

Dear god

I'm not well versed in Ecuadorian politics, but this seems quite very not good.

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[-] Babs@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

I googled "baptist hospital" and they gave me a handy "Perspectives" tab full of twitter accounts talking about how this was definitely a Hamas attack that destroyed the hospital and the zionist entity is innocent.

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[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So today, western media is gonna do a full court press on “whether or not it was Israel or Islamic Jihad that bombed the hospital”. All the energy will go towards debating who did it, sapping all the anger over it away. Of course Israel did it, it’s even more ridiculous than the beheaded babies thing. But we’re not going to get any admissions that Israel did it until the news cycle has already moved on to something else.

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