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[-] iamdisappoint@reddthat.com 12 points 1 month ago

I hated that damn book, but this (complete with conch) is hilarious.

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I liked that book. It was eye-opening. And kinda made me appreciate the relative orderliness we have in a society run by adults. As much as kids would love to run wild & free with no supervision, but I was fortunate to be a child of the 1970's & 80s so I enjoyed the perfect balance of wild freedom with parental care at the end of every day.

[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago

Can I ask why? It was actually one of my favorites in school, so just curious for a differing opinion.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago

I hated it because it was totally unbelievable, just a paternalistic rationalization for authority

I was confronted with the knowledge that the adults around me all thought the only thing keeping me from murdering someone was layers of rules and supervision. Like we're all just rabid animals barely held back by a watchful eye

Even then, I knew myself better than that. I knew people better than that

But that's how our society treats people. Like monsters that must be managed

[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Hmm, interesting. To be fair, I haven't read it since HS and that was...decades ago. Based on what you said I might reread and reassess.

[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I both dislike the book and dislike this comic for missing the actual point of the book, which is not in fact, haha, this is what would actually happen and it's just a group of random kids. It was specifically portraying british aristocratic children to criticize the colonizer mindset while discussing larger issues of human nature and civility and structure vs chaos.

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I haven't read the book but how did it criticize the colonizer mindset? A cursory look makes it seem like a justification of paternalistic authority, so propaganda for kids to blindly listen to their parents haha.

If anything wouldn't this be justification for colonization, as colonized nations were often infantalized/dehumanized?

[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

It was specifically a contrast on the colonizer mindset that was common both in culture and literature at the time. Showing a bunch of useless british aristocrats coming to "savage lands" and rather than taming the land they were shown that without their wealth and power and being taken care of by competent natives and labourers they became the savages they claimed to be inherently divinely better than.

[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Watch out for that boulder, Piggy

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Spoiler alert: >!Piggy died.!<

[-] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

the spoiler didn't work for me, but I've already read it

[-] skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Obligatory https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/09/the-real-lord-of-the-flies-what-happened-when-six-boys-were-shipwrecked-for-15-months

The real Lord of the Flies: what happened when six boys were shipwrecked for 15 months

When a group of schoolboys were marooned on an island in 1965, it turned out very differently from William Golding’s bestseller, writes Rutger Bregman

[-] stiephelando@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

I read Bregman's book and can recommend it. The boys in question collaborated, grew crops and fished. Whenever they had a fight amongst them they'd retreat to cool down. One of them broke his leg and the others cared for him.

[-] Thebular@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Hey, thanks man, that was an interesting read, perfect for insomniacs trying to fall asleep.

[-] laranis@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Honestly, I think six is likely the right number for this to work. I don't recall how many boys were in Lord of the Flies, but you get to 10-15 and you're absolutely going to start forming factions. And a hierarchy. And with more opinions you get more disagreements, and you're right back to Lord of the Flies.

[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, fragmenting into groups was an important part of the book.

[-] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

Uhm guys we should have a meeting ☝️🤓

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