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Excuse me if the question in the title is a too big simplification, but I suppose the pattern exists.

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[-] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yes and no. It depends on how Americanocentric your question is.

Many collectivistic societies are more conservative than individualistic societies; however, collectivistic societies trend to be less discriminatory to minorities and more forgiving.

What exactly do you mean "progressive"?

Question too vague

[-] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

I think it helps to clarify that we are talking about the current US Progressive movement and not just the abstract definitions of the terms. US Progressives have non-economic goals (restoring and expanding civil rights), but they generally agree that society should take care of everyone, not just the rich. That means providing at least food, housing, and health care without regard to income. There are a lot of different ideas about how that could be done. Everything from a Basic Living Stipend within a largely capitalist economy to a adopting a fully socialist, or even communist, economic system.

"A rising tide lifts all ships." That's not strictly a progressive philosophy. More a philosophy held by people who aren't idiots.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth -2 points 3 months ago

That's trickle down economics and a lie.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

No, it's more that making rich people richer isn't a rising tide

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 3 months ago
[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Exactly.

Trickle-down economics doesn't work, and everyone who isn't an idiot knows it whether they say it works or not.

Trickle-up economics would work, because if money gets into the hands of the people at the very bottom, they buy the things they need to live.

[-] pohart@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

That's the tide, a rising tide is the people getting money.

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 3 months ago

I don't really understand how this is debatable honestly. We live in a collective. We are trying to make rules and govern our collective. Who on earth still denies that there exist more humans than like 36? I am so sick of this shit

[-] iii@mander.xyz -1 points 3 months ago

You don't understand the issue, that's why you think it's a non-issue.

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

When you look at parties, progressive ones are less likely to compromise with other progressive parties while conservative parties are happy to hate everyone together.

[-] iii@mander.xyz -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

less likely to compromise

In a way: close minded and dogmatic behaviour. The reverse of progressive.

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