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If websites are slow for you, this is why, AWS is breaking everything (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Amazon sneezes, the whole internet catches a cold.

Im still seeing services up/down the entire day at work. Services that are not even AWS like Azure are slow for some reason (probably businesses failing over to other infa). Its crazy.

None of our in office infa is having issues. Managers are talking about fail-overs all day lol.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 7 points 2 months ago

When a handful of people own all the companies in the world, the whole world becomes a single point of failure.

[-] PoopMonster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Soon: "Welcome to Amazon, I love you."

[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

There are some downstream / knock on effects going on which can be explained...but I can't help but wonder if today's story is bigger than just AWS. AWS saying it was an outage of a "few hours" for DynamoDB and DNS...and that doesn't line up all that great with what people are reporting in the wild . I'm not trying to start a conspiracy theory, just wondering what the post mortems will tell us, if anything. Obviously the suits want to keep embarrassing fuckups downplayed as much as possible.

[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

They want to keep the news of the rally over the weekend as quiet as possible.

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

Its crazy, we are seeing unrelated services stop sending emails, issues with DNS, all sorts of strange stuff.

[-] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago

It's almost as if centralizing everything is fucking stupid.

[-] innermachine@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

But the bean counters said it was the best idea!

[-] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

Accountants shouldn’t be allowed to make decisions beyond their personal lives. MBAs even more so

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Maybe it was a bad idea for society to put 90% of the internet on one company's infrastructure.

[-] magnolia_mayhem@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Hey! Great idea! Let's make all of the internet rely on one service from one evil company! What could go wrong?

[-] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

I think evil is too strong a word for Amazon, I think benzos is one of the nicer billionaires but I have heard the horror stories from Amazon warehouses.

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Amazon essentially killed local bookstores and then used the proceeds to become a massive megaconglomerate only challangeable by alphabet, apple, and meta in their sheer capability to control media flow.

They have spies in the form of Alexa enabled IOT devices basically everywhere. They also have the Ring camera. Recently they have stayed they will share data from Ring cameras with Palantir.

Amazon is insidious. Its evil is quiet in its spread.

The sheer size of Amazon, along with their business model, means they must employ vast swaths of people. In the US alone, over 1M people are employed by Amazon. Amazon plans to lay off half of them in the next 8 years while they shift to a robotic workforce.

These "too big to fail" companies are not evil out of some malaise for humanity. They are evil out of a cavalier disinterest in anything other than increasing the size of their hoards.

[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Let's take a decentralized network and centalize it! Nothing will surely go wrong.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago

It's kind of telling when Amazon services like Ring, Prime Video, and Alexa failed over pretty quickly, but everything else just didnt.

There's no conspiracy here. It's just highlighting that Amazon could prepare for AWS outages in a region, but since everything auth related was on us-east-1, everything else went down.

Shortcuts are costly.

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

What are these random fucking websites though

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 months ago

Which is random? I’ve only not heard of three: Instructure, fanduel, and chime.

All the ones I’ve heard of are quite massive companies and I would assume the others are too.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago

FanDuel is sports betting

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

Well I can’t be sad that that predatory industry took a hit. Thanks for letting me know who they were. Seems betting has gotten crazy in America when I thought it wasn’t a thing outside of certain places like Atlantic city or Vegas.

[-] darvocet@infosec.pub 4 points 2 months ago

Jesus Amazon is a big enough company they should be doing their own hosting not using AWS.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago

They're big enough to be a utility and be nationalized!

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

And should be

[-] ignirtoq@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago

Amazon is using their own hosting. AWS stands for Amazon Web Services. Or did I miss the joke?

[-] darvocet@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago

Miss

[-] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

I was confused too, but I'm still glad you didn't add the /s because that always kills the joke.

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

So Roblox is the only of those companies that can handle proper region failover if us-east-1 shits the bed? You young ops have gotten soft! Learn to live by ChaosMonkey or die by the Gorilla.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but proper failover and recovery requires additional infrastructure, and that costs money.

Hopefully a bunch of risk management people are writing I-told-you-so emails to C-suites right now.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah but not to worry, C-suites have pretty good filtering rules in place to never read them. Saves time, really.

[-] prex@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago

And plausible deniability.

[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yup, and some things which can be moved cannot be done automatically, quickly or easily....even if you are prepared. AWS is a huge suite of products and services, and there's a lot of old legacy shit running on it. I wouldn't punch down on the ops for this one. Cybersecurity and disaster recovery are not directly profitable, so they are almost always neglected in your average shop.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago

AWS is a huge suite of products and services, and there's a lot of old legacy shit running on it.

Yup, AWS is legacy cloud. It was only recently that they set encryption by default on S3 buckets, before that they were just in the clear by default.

Cybersecurity and disaster recovery are not directly profitable, so they are almost always neglected in your average shop.

It's never important until suddenly it's the most important thing in the world.

[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago

I think they're the only ones doing multi-cloud. If us-east-1 shits the bed, it's a bad day for AWS in general.

[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

Shit, none of my websites are slow. Fuck Amazon

[-] sommerset@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 months ago

Blah blah blah blah blah. And nothing is going to be done about it. Keep yapping. In a week no one is going to remember. By eow no one is going to remember.

[-] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

Are you okay?

[-] sommerset@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 months ago

Yes. Thank u. Totally fine

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

Figma balls wheeeyyyy

[-] arschflugkoerper@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

It seems that there is not a single original thought in that head of mine.

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

doesn't matter bro, they're your thoughts and that's what makes them awesome 😊

[-] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

…and I did not even notice it, aside from the news here.

[-] atmorous@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Time for open source Amazon app alternatives to be made. Made a post on OpenSource with suggestions on how to do it and how it can help open source communities: KDE, GNU/Linux, etc can each make their own and use their profits for their own and other open source projects. A passive income if you will from making, and managing the app that displays products from various partnered stores and websites

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

For some context, the issue was affecting AWS or Amazon Web Services, which is hosting for those other services (or parts of them), not an amazon app issue cascading to other services.

And I don't think an open source amazon app would work. Amazon is a lot more than just a webstore. They've got a massive logistics network plus warehouses and packing plants. I feel like an open source version of amazon's store would end up avoiding the corporate shit but would have all the negatives of amazon store without many of the positives.

[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I am grateful that my past me (from few months ago) decided to study Slavic philology, instead of getting stupid tech job. I hate modern tech, including anything from big corporations.

I am also glad that I've switched to Linux (Debian ftw) to escape software enshittification.

[-] magnolia_mayhem@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

It's not a full escape, just a path to escape.

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

I'd argue you cna never fully escape the problem of enshittification, unless you produce and maintain everything you use by yourself. Given how much of what we need today requires specialist labour and how impossible it is to be a specialist in everything, chances are you'd be trading enshittification for plain shit.

But using Debian at least shuts down one source of enshittification. Just because perfection can't ever fully be attained is no reason not to try and get as close as you can.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -1 points 2 months ago

Why does Amazon use AWS?

I thought they had an in-house solution.

[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

A lot of AWS are wrappers over said in house solutions

And there’s a push to move off of those to proper AWS

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