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submitted 5 months ago by Donjuanme@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

19 states have "no more changing the clocks" laws passed, but aren't allowed to do so without approval of the federal government?

It's pretty obvious you can just do what you want these days, consequences are trivial to non-existent, so why don't we just not change our clocks? (or change them and not change them back, whatever floats your boat)

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Why can't we (states) ignore clock changes without the federal government?

I'm not sure what you mean. There are places in the US that don't do DST.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

In the United States, it is observed by all states except Hawaii, Arizona (within the latter, however, the Navajo Nation does observe it), and the U.S. Territories.[2]

[-] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

From the same article:

In the United States, several states have enacted legislation to implement permanent DST, but the bills would require Congress to change federal law in order to take effect. The Uniform Time Act of 1966 permits states to opt out of DST and observe permanent standard time, but it does not permit permanent DST.

[-] Carnelian@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I’d meet in the middle if we could just be done with it once and for all

[-] leadore@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

This is the solution I mention every year, but so far no one has listened. :) It would solve all the complaints from both sides of which one to choose.

[-] Carnelian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Keep preaching!! How do I get involved??

[-] leadore@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I dunno, the two of you here are the first ones I've seen that have also suggested or like the idea, most people just laugh like it's a joke.

Maybe try to make a short viral video about the idea to build support?

  1. solves all the complaints I've heard about which end of the day the daylight is shifted to, because it meets in the middle like you say.

  2. There are other countries offset by a half hour so it's not unreasonable in that regard.

  3. It won't be as hard to adjust to as a full hour and only has to be done one final time.

[-] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 0 points 5 months ago

So what? Not changing clocks is the bigger issue, and I'm someone that very much prefers DST through the winter, as it gives me more sunlight after the typical work day.

But I'd settle for a single, non-switching time.

Plus I'm sure if a state decided to go permanent DST, the Fed would have a hard time forcing the issue, as suddenly the Interstate clause would get challenged in the Supreme Court, and the Fed wants to avoid that at all costs.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

The rub is which to go with. Some people want the extra hour of daylight after work in the winter. Others want it in the summer because it will maximize their after-hours sunlight in the season when being outside is more realistic.

The reasonable position I take is that, if you inflict a Spring Forward on me, I'm owed a goddamned Fall Back and I'll go to war with any government who tries to keep that hour indefinitely.

[-] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Don't worry, you'll get your fall back as regularly scheduled. However, when the clock hits midnight we're immediately jumping ahead an hour again so we permanently land on DST.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

I'm just saying that I'm heavily armed even for a Texan. Do with that information what you will.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I'm glad you're asking this question, it's about time.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I disagree, they're about an hour off.

[-] lung@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Hawaii already doesn't do DST ... Since 1967

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

So I had trouble finding a breakdown of those 19 states and what the specifics of those laws are. In general what you have are 19 states who want to do it. However some of those 19 explicitly call out waiting to enact the law until A, the federal government first passes a similar law and/or B, neighboring states also pass similar laws.

Basically no one wants to go first, but they're ready once everyone else is. While switching twice a year is painful, being the only one not to switch is also painful, possibly more than just switching.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago

I want to know who is forcing us to change the clocks

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If you show up to work and all your appointments an hour late for the next 6 months, you'll feel the consequences.

Anyway at 2am on Nov 2nd most of our smart phones & other devices will automatically throw back to 1am unless you adjust your phone settings in defiance.

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