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submitted 3 weeks ago by trslim@pawb.social to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Seriously, they are both former military, my dad was in for like 30 years, how do they like the drunk secretary? I get that he saw combat, but being in combat doesn't automatically make you qualified for... well anything except therapy and medical care.

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[-] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 weeks ago

Your parents might lack empathy and are cruel, therefore they are looking for other cruel people to confirm their cruel behavior: The cruelty is the point

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/

[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

Honest answer, as someone in the military:

A LOT of military people lament how "soft" the military has become, and someone coming down on beards, fat, etc, as well as being up front with what the military is for (e.g. Department of War), scratches a whiny itch they've always had. Because every old salty sailor and sandy equivalent feels like they came from the Old Guard.

I came from the Old Guard that my peers are nostalgic about. It was terrible and unnecessarily cruel. It was inefficient and left new people floundering instead of supported. The whole thing feels like a cycle of abuse.

But back to the point, they don't care if he's underqualified, makes bad and inexperienced military decisions, or has a host of DUIs ("who doesn't?"). They only care that he's calling generals fat to their faces and getting rid of beard ememptions.

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

What's funny is that nobody alive today was alive and in the military for any major conflict that we were actually victorious in, so what "good old days" are these geezers even pining for? The days where we lost a bunch of soldiers in Vietnam and the ones who survived came back with PTSD and drug addictions?

[-] warbond@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

The good old days where the people in charge could get away with anything, that's what it comes down to.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Your parents are not nice people. It happens, my parents were not nice people.

[-] vladmech@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

My parents care on the micro level, where it applies to people they directly know, but have no ability to show empathy on the macro level and it breaks my heart.

[-] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 14 points 3 weeks ago

I'm guessing they consume a lot of Fox News or similar? Propaganda works.

[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

There's a good chance that they're stupid and hateful

Two character traits that are often celebrated in 'Murica rather than being condemned

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago
  1. Decades of propaganda

  2. I'm not trying to insult here, but your parents aren't that smart. One of mine fell for it too.

Bottom line is if you fall for extremely obvious propaganda you are not, and never were, very intelligent.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

they're selfish and dumb and choose to be ignorant

simple as that. they might be nice people in some respects, but the above still holds true

[-] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago

They're dumb and/or terrible people. It happens.

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

Could it be that they’re morons? I mean. No offense to those in the armed services, but there’s a reason the minimum IQ requirements to enlist is roughly 20 points below the average score.

This doesn’t mean that our armed service members are all idiots, but it does illustrate the fact that there idiots allowed to walk among the ranks.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 3 weeks ago

What do they say about him?

I can fully understand somebody having no opinion, but actively liking him? There must be positive stories about him on the far right news networks that I am not familiar with.

[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago
[-] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

I've got a former military buddy who is all about Pete because "he's not gonna let the fatties and the faggots fuck up our military anymore."

Nevermind that the navy has been called gay since their inception, or that muhreens have zero self discipline outside of a military situation, or that the air force has run more drug than most cartels, it's the "fatties and faggots" that are the problem.

I always knew my buddy was dumb, but it took that conversation for me to figure out that it went all the way down to the core of who he was as a person.

[-] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Your parents are siblings, right?

[-] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

They’re shitty people

[-] boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's easy to win over weak people.

[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

This comment section is comically unhinged and batshit crazy that it's a good reminder that this platform is infested by terminally online idiots who I should interact less with. Welp time to go touch some grass.

[-] zaugofficial@lemmings.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

It's weird how this is the thread that would you think that.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Care to provide any specific examples?

[-] blarghly@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

The comments here are wild. So much judgement about people we literally know one single thing about.

There should really only be one answer to this question: "I dunno. Why don't you ask them?"

Just because your parents like some guy that they've never met doesnt mean they are evil, sociopathic, racist monsters. The most likely explaination is that they got walked down the right wing media rabbithole by some network of acquaintences, and now they are trapped in a fairy tale depiction of the world designed to appeal to their baser emotions.

People believe in bigfoot and the flat earth. Why? Mostly because they feel lonely and powerless, and want to feel like they are part of a group that is united in their knowledge of The Truth.

[-] Rothe@piefed.social 0 points 3 weeks ago

The most likely explaination is that they got walked down the right wing media rabbithole by some network of acquaintences, and now they are trapped in a fairy tale depiction of the world designed to appeal to their baser emotions.

So you know, sociopathic racists.

[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Or white people who've never thought of the wider world. Yeah, there's racism there, but that's mostly fear of the unknown. Not excusing racists, just saying that people know what they know and conservative propaganda reaches them faster because it meets them where they are (afraid of the unknown and not knowing anyone who isn't white)

[-] stardust@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

The biggest mistake I think people make is they automatically assume racists must be misinformed or tricked or stupid. When they can be intelligent and know more, and it comes down to simply not liking a certain group for existing and wanting to reduce those groups influence and population within their country. And that can be despite them seeing more of the world than other people.

I think this automatic assumption of wanting to believe they are dumb or tricked is why they have successfully gained traction, since people still keep underestimating their intelligence and planning. Its like people just don't want to believe people can actually be evil at their core.

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