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Because they're sniffing their own farts over Mamdani winning and Prop. 50 passing.
Didn’t “the Democrats” fight this guy the whole way?
They did and that's why it's funny he won. He's proposing five municipal grocery stores and stacking the housing board and the political establishment went spare. He's not even proposing sewer socialism.
But i still enjoy seeing the people who lost today lose.
kinda. Jim Clyburn flipped after the primary and a bunch of the other ghouls dragged their feet all the way to last night, including Chuck never endorsing Mamdani and presumably voting for Cuomo.
I don't think Hakeem Jefferies ever endorsed him either lol
"We did this!"
Also this is the part where all those "Obama called him", "Bernie had a meeting", stories come into play. It's proof that the Democrats helped him all along! Funny how that happened.
Keep in mind that while both of these things are most likely objectively good, neither will do anything to stop the genocide in Palestine
I didn't know the mayor of new York has any control over that
I never said he did. The Democrats fought Mamdani the whole way, now they're sucking themselves off because he won, and they should have spent that energy stopping the genocide.
Prop 50 passing
Oh boy I wonder what the inevitable SC decision is going to be. No worries though I’m sure Sotomayor will write an epic clapback
What will be the Puerto Rican equivalent of Ruthkanda forever? In 20 years I'm gonna get that mournful message in my family whatsapp group.
Just told my 10yo daughter about #SS in the work camp soylent distribution center. She would have had tears in her eyes if she wasn't too dehydrated to cry. And then she did the Wakanda pose and said "#Soniakanda forever". I couldn't see who was in the panopticon but I assume they must have tried to cry too. When Frau Bondi hears of this, I'm sure she will be touched enough to increase our soylent portions by 1.25% -- which is the sort of incrementalism that I can celebrate.
/uj My guess is we'll probably see white soccer moms doing racist "spicy latina" shit for weeks on end. But if any hexbears can come up with a Puerto Rican localization of Ruthkanda then 
first as thing then as thing
NYC will improve slightly but not as much as we want. Maybe some smaller places will get some copycats who won't be asked about international issues. that's about it.
oh, also dick cheney died, that was a shame it took so long.
I give it three months into his term before people are posting 
again
There will be a post within the next week declaring that the site has a problem. There will be 400 comments. Someone will be banned. Someone will complain about someone being banned.
I don't really care for Mamdani in a way that expects him to change things, I care for him for what he means for proper communists in New York and the whole US. People ought to use him and his success to further actual socialism.
His victory is proof that you don't have to constantly pander to the worst people in the world (suburbanites) to get votes. You can just run on a platform of "better things are possible" and win easily. This, of course, infuriates every crypto-fash lib whose only joy in life is coming up with and implementing the most arcane, inscrutable means-testing policies and getting into the means-tester hall of fame.
His success and his failure!
I remember joyously watching the press conferences with his transition team. I was excited for him to tackle the financial crisis.
Years later I learned that he had gotten his whole cabinet pre-approved by Citi Bank. Tackling Wall Street indeed.
I mean, you probably don't pick 
as your fucking VP unless a bunch of good ol' boys from MBNA, Bank of AmeriKKKa, Citi, Merrick, Wells Fargo, and Capital One got together and hauled you to a smoky backroom where they show you video footage of the JFK assassination taken from an angle that the public has never seen before
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10 years after Bernie first ran his presidential campaign, the American left finally gets to celebrate the election of its first socialist mayor. (With the exception of AOC, whose relation with the left had soured just a few years in)
I’ll leave you to decide whether this is good progress or not.
But what is clear is that this is nowhere near the “significance” of Obama’s presidential win. Not even close.
At one point, Bernie boasted a million volunteers nationwide during his primary campaign. Have those energy dissipated into nowhere? Or did it remain latent and about to be reinvigorated after Mamdani’s victory? Are there plans to run 100s and 1000s of socialist candidates all over the country? If so, what are the organized movements that sustain these effort? How are they organized, especially against hostile state apparatuses? Can they translate electoral victories into palpable political actions? What are their strategies toward taking broader state power?
These are the important questions to ask. And if no such political movement emerges in the wake of Mamdani, nothing will change.
the American left finally gets to celebrate the election of its first socialist mayor.
One of the most interesting aspects of Milwaukee is the fact that it's the only major American city to have ever elected three Socialist mayors
it isn't nyc so it doesn't count. nyc is the greatest and only city in america and indeed the world
I know you're joking but NYC Mayor Dinkins was technically in the DSA so the point still stands
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the American left finally gets to celebrate the election of its first socialist mayor
There have been socialist mayors in America before, even recently. Kshama Sawant is one example.
I thought she was just city council?
This is correct
Some "leftists" are almost as mad that Zohran won than the libs and chuds, it's a funny kind of synchronicity
Meanwhile all I care about is that he triggers the birth of countless more socialists and dismantles THE MOST crippling mindset among the masses "Your politics are cool, but they're not realistic"
Zohran is a blow to capitalist realism, to AIPAC, to the DNC, to leftist book club mentality, it's a shame nobody realizes five years too late we got our wish and the door is finally open for mass radicalization, at least in New York City
I wish I could have this kind of optimism about a succdem, lol
Zohran is simply a wedge temporarily holding a door open, he's not gonna trigger the big revolution all by his socdem lonesome, but he will give us room to grow and the pressure of Trump will continue to push more people towards that door Zohran's victory has opened
This is a win for us, don't make yourself immune from ever recognizing victory conditions
Nah, this isn’t a victory for socialists in particular, at least not until his eventual total failure to be able to ameliorate conditions for working people gives us the opportunity to radicalise people more.
People really need to learn that “support whatever makes chuds angry” isn’t really a coherent political strategy.
Will be nice if some struggling working people in new York get fed. But can people please stop overselling this as some immense victory for socialism lol. The guy took time out of his speech to talk about “working with the cops” and “fighting the scourge of antisemitism” ffs. Mfers really just hear someone quote Debs and turn their brains off for the next twenty minutes. It’s all spectacle for you folks.
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I think as someone who is on the losing side it's important to not just be pessimistic, but make the best out of every opportunity. Yes real socialist leaders aren't elected they're elevated by people, in respective communities, based on their actions. If soft power expands and lets you educate more openly, educate, keep on educating, don't fall into despair.
Look at what makes the world around you beautiful, there's beauty even in despair, you are beautiful, ask yourself what stop the world from being more so and what can you do about it? Don't shame yourself if what do seems pointless and small, you wouldn't shame a small creature from attempting to fight against a pack of bloodthirsty predators, even if it seems futile. We're not alone and the predators are busy devouring each other.
I knew Obama wasn't going to change anything, and I didn't vote for him, but I did go to DC for his inauguration. It was historic, and it inspired a lot of people. The energy that day was unforgettable.
I also don't have any illusions about Mamdani, but I think it's rad that he opened his victory speech with a Debs quote. That a dude like this can win (handily) in NY, says something significant about our historical moment
This is much different bro
A Mayor who even says That he would arrest Netanyahu in the USA is such a massive change
The fact it’s the mayor of New York makes it even bigger
He walked that back. He said he wouldn’t break the law or create new ones, which is as good as saying he wouldn’t arrest Netanyahu.
Didn't he walk that back?
And if he didn't, I won't be surprised when he does
He did!?
Yes, on Zeteo. He was asked directly, danced around the question for a minute, then said he wouldn’t break the law or create new ones to do it, as that would make him a Trumpian fascist
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I can see the dancing but not the rest. https://inv-uk1.nadeko.net/companion/download?check=NEaWNQNR7v5GiVtJdg2G5Y3BtpeVdIvyNVSOhQcfGgQ%3D
autosubs
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with the president uh Trump and we'll see what the How do you know who the mayor
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will be? I don't know that. Do we know that? He's going to be very fine. And who knows? We don't know who the mayor is
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going to be yet. But this is a communist. He's not a socialist. He's a communist. And he's said some really bad
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things about Jewish people. And he said some really bad things about a lot of people. And uh I think he's going
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through a little bit of a honeymoon right now, but he might make it. But you know, it all comes through the White House. He needs the money through the
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White House. He needs a lot. He's going to behave. He'll behave. He better behave. Otherwise, he's going to have big problems.
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So, you got to behave. Um I've got to ask, it's very funny that Netanyahu was like, I'm going to go with my big
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brother. Donald Trump's going to come with me. Is the plan still to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu if he comes to New York City with Donald Trump as his human
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shield? Look, I think I want to just first give us the context. Yes, often
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times this is described as if it is a matter of opinion, a personal
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assessment. We are speaking about someone who is facing a warrant from the International Criminal Court, someone
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who has perpetrated a genocide of Palestinians for close to two years. And
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every hour for that time period, a Palestinian child has been killed by the Israeli military.
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And this is something that has shocked the conscience of so many across the
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city, across this country, across the world. And I hear about it from New Yorkers everywhere. I hear about it when
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I take the train. I hear about it when I'm walking on the street. I hear about it when I'm speaking about our affordability agenda. And I hear about
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it because it is an affront to any kind of universal belief in the sanctity of
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of humanity, of justice, of safety. And I also hear about it because there is a
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deep shame and anger and a horror at the fact that we as Americans are complicit
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in this. You know, I think Graeme Platner put it best when he recently said, "Our taxpayer dollars should be
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building schools and hospitals in this country, not bombs to destroy them in Gaza." And there is that deep sense of
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the contradiction in our politics. you as mayor of New York want to hold him to account and and and and that is the importance
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of this city is to showcase a model of what politics could be and to to showcase that we are a city that
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believes in international law. Now look to be clear I'm going to operate within the bounds of the law. I'm not Donald
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Trump seeking to create my own, you know, legal system as I make my own decisions. And yet I think it is also
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important to say that the time of not only tolerating but celebrating Benjamin
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Netanyahu in this city from those in leading political positions including the mayor.
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The time of looking at Benjamin Netanyahu coming to this city and then making military decisions from this city
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to kill civilians. That time has to come to an end because New Yorkers at the very least want to bring an end not only
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to this genocide but also to the complicity we have in the violation of international law. You have Eric Adams
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hosting Benjamin Net. I proudly say I'll host you this week at the UN. You're also up against Andrew Cromo, a guy who
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many people forget volunteered to represent Benjamin Net at the
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International Criminal Court and I will be your lawyer and now and now he's running away from that. Did a recent interview with the New York
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Times. He said the war in Gaza is horrific that it should come to an end. He even said I never stood with BB.
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There Google images will literally show that statement is false. Um, do you buy that distancing by Cuomo or has he just
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noticed that the Democratic base is not pro-Israel anymore? The only thing that Andrew Cuomo seems
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to believe in is his own ambition. There are no convictions. There are no deeply held beliefs beyond that. And we've seen
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that with his continuing shift on the question of Israel and Palestine and and whether or not international law is
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something to be respected. and to tell New Yorkers that he has nothing to do with BB when he volunteered and proudly
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shared with the world. It was not something that was discovered. It was something that he shared publicly. It is
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it is just it just shows how little he thinks of us and our ability to actually remember and and I think that speaks to
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his politics at large where he thinks that none of us remember his record. None of us remember why he is the former
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governor and yet or why he's the disgraced former governor as the phrase goes. There's a reason for that. Exactly. Um, just on
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that, does it frustrate you that the media has spent so much time asking you
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about this or that statement that you have never used yourself? But don't I don't see them asking Andrew Cuomo about
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representing a wanted war criminal. I do think it's a question that deserves to be asked more of him because of the
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fact that it goes against what so many New Yorkers want in their leadership. Right? We want first and foremost
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someone who will focus on this city, someone who will deliver for the people of this city. And we also want a
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politics that's consistent. And to look at Benjamin Netanyahu and say that the
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best use of my time is to defend him from the International Criminal Court. Yes. It shows how little you think of New
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Yorkers and how little you think of any beliefs in humanity. I've got to ask, we're wrapping up. I got to ask, I know you're not just a
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Muslim, you are a Shia Muslim. I believe you're also a Shia Muslim. Yes. Yes. People say people say, "I've
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heard you're anti-b businessiness." Have you ever met an anti-b business? Well, koas are famous for trade and commerce and business. Um, they're also
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famous for their punctuality. So, as hoja, mayor of New York, are you going to ensure the buses run on time?
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Yes, there's going to be KST, Koja Standard Time. Okay. So, that's for the New Yorkers who
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don't know about Kojas, you're welcome to a new world of everything being on time and no delays. Um, I also got to
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ask before we finish, you were obviously once rapper Young Cardinal. Yes. And you said to me last year when we spoke, I asked you, I said, "Is it
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harder uh to run for mayor or do a mixtape?" And you said, "Mix tape."
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Do you still feel that way? I still feel that way. You still feel that way a year later. All the crap you've got.
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Let me tell you, when you are the opener to the opener to the opener to the opener to the opener,
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okay, to the main act, there is a different level of difficulty in motivating yourself for that moment.
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This is a very difficult job that I have right now and that I'm running to have as the next mayor of this city, but it's
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also a joy and an opportunity to serve the city that I love and I just can't I can't wait to do it. And on joy, you did this big scavenger
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hunt. I've never seen a candidate. Where were you? I was in Washington DC. I'm not a resident of New York City. Um but okay,
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I'll come for the next one. My question is when you're mayor, we do we expect more fun and games? Is that part of the mayoral platform?
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There has to be room for joy in our politics. There has to be room for joy in the city. And none of it to elide over the struggle of what it takes to be
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a New Yorker. But life cannot just be struggle. And whether it's a scavenger hunt, whether it's enjoying the World
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Cup, we have to ensure that these things are within reach of New Yorkers, not things that they're priced out of. Last question. If Trump can ignore the
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Constitution and run for a third term in 2028, does that mean that you can ignore the Constitution?
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Don't even in 2028. No. No. No. No. No plans. No. No.
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This part. Legally, there’s no basis to arrest Netanyahu. But on his first interview with Mehdi, he said it would do it regardless.
oh ya you're right
Legally, there’s no basis to arrest Netanyahu.
I thought you were incorrect but when I checked it seems like the obligation to arrest him for the ICC warrant would be via the Rome Statute which I guess the US isn't signed to.
But come on it would be fun to do it anyway.
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If you keep electing people who call themselves democratic socialists (not Obama obviously), eventually you will get a Hugo Chávez.
And? Venezuela has a smaller public sector than France lol. Forgive me for wanting a little more than maybe, hopefully, some day, getting some pink tide bullshit in thirty years.
This post is not an endorsement of yankee imperialism in South America before someone comes at me with that baby brained shit btw.
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