She says a lot more but my eye rolling made me stop reading after the first five sentences
https://xcancel.com/ImBreckWorsham/status/1986436503988297774#m
I can excuse racism and pedophilia, but my financial wellbeing is where I draw the line!
Man, I mean, that kind of is the ugly truth, isn't it? Some people actually can excuse racism and pedophilia if it means there's a shot at personal gain. I'm not surprised, really, just wholly disgusted.
I know right? The dude said “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything” and ”I moved on her like a bitch.”
When I heard that during his first campaign, I thought he was done, no one could possibly accept such deplorable behavior, right?
…and here we are.
I remember when an enthusiastic "yeah!" would end a politicians career and mark them as "too unhinged" to represent anyone.
Brown suits and mustard preferences are also beyond the pale of acceptable political behavior
The thing is that a there's actually a pretty big divide among MAGA now. Ever since Trump and his admin refused to release the Epstein files like promised, there's a very big chunk of MAGA who went in uproar and rejected Trump. That chunk of MAGA which I would say is maybe around 1/3 of the base is disenfranchised because while they're still MAGA in their beliefs, they no longer view Trump as a prophet like the rest of the base.
If more people actually worked like this, we'd have fewer issues. Rightwing policies are absolutely terrible for working class people, and workers far outnumbers the groups that would benefit financially from these policies (even when the people in power are somewhat more reasonable than Trump and don't sacrifice the entire economy for their insider trading schemes).
The solution is simple, we eat the rich
In the best scenario this is a wedge in what they believe. "If he lied about this... is he lying too about the rest?"
He has lied about so much and been proven wrong, so sadly I doubt anyone will take that away from this
Though I don't feel bad for her, I would argue we should try to be nice. I'd rather have her see the light for the mistakes she made than her continuing being on the side of evil
We need more people on the right side
She hasn't changed. She'll vote for the next Trump who they believe will be more surgical when it comes to hurting people they don't like. This is her basically telling the party to reduce the collateral damage. The ideology that brought her to support them hasn't changed.
In most free societies, an individual's political beliefs are viewed as product of their circumstance, and since circumstances change for people all the time, their politics are also expected to change. The very concept of democracy revolves around the idea that people are able to change their opinions. This idea that politics is some sort immutable personality trait is only found among authoritarians because their ideologies are so rigid that they don't leave any room for nuance.
Your opinion here is shouldn't even be argued. It should be the standard for any individual who genuinely believes in the concept of democracy.
She's not and will never be an ally, she only voted to preserve her privilege with the hope of ruining the lives of those she considered undeserving. now she has lost some of her privilege, and now it is a problem for her.
If only she had come to this realization NINE YEARS AGO
If she saw the future she'd still vote for Trump. The core ideology is something she agrees with and is happy with many of the policies being carried out. She's just not happy about the random way it is being carried out that is leading to collateral damage to groups of her kind that weren't supposed to be affected.
All the MAGA morons I know are totally fine with what is going on
They will be, until they are personally affected
It's the party of pure selfishness, they do not understand empathy. Until they themselves are affected at all, they won't understand .
I cannot bring myself to believe that this is real. The only way I can believe someone so eloquent of a writer would believe Trump is if they are in on it and it seems she's not a billionaire. Also, I don't think people who would vote for Trump 3 times would ever have the ability to reflect and change their view on him.
If they would be capable of that, we wouldn't be here in the first place.
Does she ever take any responsibility for her own actions?
The rest was rich, though.
Children are starving due to no fault of their own. Senior citizens are going without their medications just so they can afford to eat.
Politely shut the fuck up.
We see you.
Starting when?
Do they ever own up to their poor judgement flying in the face of all the blatant, nonstop bullshit since before he began?
I frequently chat with my neighbor who is a Q-class Trumper. Over the past year, I've been able to observe the leopards licking his face as if I were filming a nature documentary in 4k. We actually get along great. I like having a window into whatever inane, batshit information he consumes, and he really enjoys my company, as I don't outwardly judge him, and I listen. Naturally, he's on disability and dependent upon the state. As such, he's running low on funds and needs to move in a couple months.
We had elections this past week in my state. I told him that I voted, and he offered up some excuses as to why he can't make it to the polls. We tend not to directly discuss politics, because I told him a long time back that I'm still salty about Bernie. Deep down, he knows that we don't align, but he doesn't want to rock the boat. I give his pets treats. I give him treats. He occasionally mentions various religion-based conspiracies and alludes to looming conflict and the criminality of the left, but he's become more mum on this front. I think, the gears may be turning in his head.
I don't have any grand insights with which to conclude my anecdote. I give the guy a 30-70 chance of rediscovering reality. But, by being nice to the dude, I do think his chances are much better than they would be had I ignored him the past few years.
Is this not normal? If you treat people kindly and with respect, they're more likely to respect you back and treat you kindly. This common courtesy establishes a level of trust where others are more willing to listen to what you have to say. This is the only way people can ever change their minds.
I have never seen any instance of anyone changing their minds because others were demonizing them and making fun of them. I feel like the people who advocate for others to be dicks to people like this guy tend to be major assholes themselves, and these people are big part of the problem. Yet that views is becoming more and more common. So props to you for treating this guy like person, you might think much of it, but your interactions with him might very well be the reason why he even has the chance of coming around.
But your story just continues to show that nobody with such strong opinions seem to care until it directly effects them. In your case, it sounds like they are right on the border of realizing this. It just sucks that this is what it takes for them to even consider this.
It's tragic, yes. But, don't underestimate the effects of propaganda, repeat exposures that dwarf my face time with the guy. He doesn't have my range of experience. He's just a lonely, 50-something man that's had more negative than positive experiences in life. He has tunnel vision.
In my mind, he's responsible for his choices and frame-of-mind. But that's not going to stop me from sharing my perspective without confronting or proselytizing. Insecurity is a mother fucker.
Talking to him and being a good person can do more than you realize.
I was raised white Christian nationalist, although we didn't call it that and I wouldn't have realized that's what I was. I was taught all the conservative bullshit, both politically and socially. Thankfully there was always a part of me that was like "something isn't right here" and I kept my mouth shut and was never the bully going around mouthing off to gay kids or minorities, but I definitely thought things like "being gay is a choice" and "poor people should just work harder" and "abortion is something welfare queens do" but also "welfare queens have lots of babies for more money".
Being around people like you who were nonjudgmental and just talked about their point of view and occasionally gently challenged my beliefs without being confrontational opened my worldview and helped give me the courage to listen to the voice in my head that was saying something felt wrong with the belief system I was raised in. I'd always been taught things like liberals were stupid and lacked critical thinking skills and acted solely on emotions and I was young and kept in a bubble and was dumb enough to believe it until I started meeting people who proved otherwise. That was enough to start the cracks forming that eventually shattered the entire wall of lies. I'm now a raging socialist and I don't care how people live their lives as long as they aren't harming anyone else. I don't think I would have ended up that way if I wasn't someone who is willing to think for myself and who isn't afraid to be the "black sheep", because leaving that mindset lost me my family, but I definitely wouldn't have ever been able to start down the path I'm on if I was never exposed to people like you who started showing me the lies in the first place.
Talking to him and being a good person can do more than you realize.
100%. Honestly more than anything were suffering a large scale collapse of community. First, the highway system and cars came in and carved up large-scale communities. Everyone riding around in their own personal pods, not having to interact with anyone else.
Then the internet comes in, allowing anyone and everyone to find material that conforms and confirms their biases. Forget about going out and touching grass. Has anyone spent any actual time in an average day brushing elbows with hundreds of strangers and holding casual conversations. Nothing stops stupid behaviors faster than being judged by the community around you.
That's what fixed the rest of what was left of my toxic worldview. I started working in healthcare. I've treated people from all over the world. I've treated people who speak so many different languages. I've treated people of all religions. I've treated different gender identities and sexual preferences. I've treated people I knew were rapists or murderers (fucking worst, but you grit your teeth and treat them like human beings who need healthcare). I've treated so many refugees from various places (love the refugees, keep them in the US!)
All of them are just people. I've met a lot of really shitty people and a lot of really good people. It's hard to hate a group of people when you meet individuals from a particular subset and realize they have the same hopes and fears as you. At the end of the day, we all just want to go to our respective homes and be safe and loved and alive and there shouldn't be anything political about that.
You may not realize it but you're humanizing "the left" for him. Its probably keeping him somewhat grounded.
oh no! my actions have consequences??? OH NO!
Cute, but of course it's fake, a 'feel-good' post for the left. Some of the phrasing ('we see you', 'Sit down', etc) exposes this as someone on the left impersonating a magat. MAGA simply does not talk like that.
Look at the profile and timeline. It's all anti-trump, anti-repub stuff, just done in a way to sound like coming from a conservative POV. No posts bashing Democrats which a real maga account would definitely have.
Republicans do not hold a monopoly on bashing the democrats. The republicans dont even do a good job of it.
who could have seen this coming??????
Leopards saw it coming and took out the fine china!
Replacing First-past-the-post voting will allow the people to elect a better conservative party then the republican or democrats. It would even end the disenfranchisement of those not represented by the two party system.
Who could possibly be against that? Republicans? Of course! But how about the democratic party? Do they support democracy? If history can help predict rhe future, the answer is "fuck no, fuck you, vote how I want or else".
Feeling free yet?
Electoral Reform Videos
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be Compassionate! She THOUGHT that by Electing Trump ONLY Trans and Brown kids would be Hurt! She NEVER Thought ~~Jesus~~ Trump would go after WHITE People too! Be NICE!
See a normal person would see this as opportunity to bring this person over to their side. This could be an opportunity to explain to this person that this is how other people feel too, that her she's not alone in her rejection of Trump, and that she's better off joining everybody else in the fight for everyone instead of just for some.
However, a deranged person would see this as opportunity to mock and belittle this person for changing their view because they view people as inherently evil.
The economy is doing great! -Trump
I get all of the comments here. I understand the anger and distain that so many of you are feeling over the current state of things. I share in many of the frustrations and anger.
But it depresses me that Trump won't run for office again. He will be replaced by someone and the entire pool of former Trumpers will see that person and think that they can do all the things they hoped that Trump would do.
Even if Trump exits office without doing any further significant harm, the people who have made these kinds of revelations, like in the OP, will probably still vote for the same party, in spite of it all. Sure, they may never vote for Trump again, but they'll never get the chance to anyways, so who cares?
This was calculated.
Don't be surprised if the next candidate follows the same playbook as Trump, and don't be surprised if the MAGA crowd falls for it again.
The only way forward, to ensure that this kind of damage is stopped, is to rally together in sufficient numbers to ensure that these folks don't get into office any more. The absentee voters need to get out and vote.
I am confident that the numbers would work out if we could get enough people to the voting booth.
I think I might have cancer from reading some of the responses. And then clicking through to their profiles.
It's truly astounding the things these people believe.
And they believe the same things about us.
We have an actual war on truth and objective facts in this country, and it's being waged by billionaires that control the narrative to pit us against each other. American media is a goddamn propaganda farm run by a dozen or so Goebbels.
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