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submitted 1 week ago by lordnikon@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

The best one I've ever heard is they like the Microsoft wallpapers. Yes i told them you can use them on linux too. But they argued with me that they wouldn't be compatible.

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[-] Bronzor@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

"I don't want to learn something new"

How tf am I supposed to respond to that?

[-] chronotron@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

there's a meme i've seen a few times about how it's "an operating system for coding"

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Here's my stupid reason. I only play video games, I like using mods, I don't use steam and all my games come in .exes from fitgirl lol. I'm sure it's possible to do it on Linux. I'm certain it's more difficult.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 4 points 6 days ago

I think I made the mistake of pushing my grandfather away from Linux. He’s retired but does some professional photography; he’s used Photoshop for years, but said he’s open to leaving Adobe.

One day recently, he told me he heard about “this Linux thing” and asked me if it would be a good fit and run Windows applications well. I told him his main issue was probably Photoshop, and that even switching, he’d still need some stable, consistent way to open past PSD files. In retrospect, maybe I should have looked more closely at his use case to see the complexity of his edits and if they might have worked well in another program that runs on Linux.

[-] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I know that at least krita can psd.
A lot of other programs could also support it but dont hope for every feature of psd as it can quite litterally be PtSD for them (its atrocious)

[-] pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works 97 points 1 week ago

A friend of mine finally decided to heed my advice and try it out. He successfully installed fedora and was pleasantly surprised by the 'clean' design (of gnome). He then enabled his Bluetooth headphones and DMed me that they won't connect. The BT menu wouldn't show them.

Now, I wouldn't call him stupid, so I committed a grave sin of troubleshooting when I decided to not offend his intelligence. We hopped on a call and started debugging. Looking at drivers, support for his hardware, logs for any errors... He didn't have another device to connect through BT at the moment and I was out of ideas, so we called it a night and decided to try again tomorrow.

By the time we reconnected the next day, he had already reinstalled windows, but was suffering from the same issue.

And then it downed on me... "Did you pair your headphones?" I asked, afraid of the answer. He just blinked twice and the "what do you mean?" hit me so hard I couldn't even laugh. "I've never had to do that before...."

Some painful explanations later, or an argument really, and his headphones were paired. But by that time he had had enough and didn't want me to bother him about Linux again. Needless to say, pointing out it was his misunderstanding of the technology that ultimately led to this outcome didn't really help.

This memory still injects fury in my veins as I fall asleep, right there with fumbling my words when speaking with my highschool crush...

[-] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago

“I’ve never had to do that before…”

Not trying to shit on the guy, but like, that's literally the first thing you do with BT anything. 😄

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I guess that really depends on the equipment though, some devices when you turn it on for the first time will automatically enter pairing mode, so all that had to be done is click it in the bluetooth menu, but it might not auto enter pairing mode when you turn it on after. So it's unlikely the user ever knew they were pairing it, and just clicked through the prompts like many do

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[-] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 34 points 1 week ago

He was able to install Linux and Windows but couldn't figure out how to pair a Bluetooth device...

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[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

People blame everything on whatever the last change was

Went to the mechanic for an oil change and now my AC doesn't work? The mechanic must have fucked my AC while changing my oil!!!!! 1!1!1!1

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[-] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 86 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Most people's reasons in my experience demonstrate to me that they have a perception of Linux as it was 15+ years ago.

I discussed switching to Linux with a group of friends in a voice chat some time ago, most were fairly open to it, and one or two have switched since, but mainly their reasons were time constraints, not wanting to go through the process of backing up files, and finding alternative software.

One guy in particular brought up gaming, MS office, and some other particular software they used. I showed them protondb and every game they looked up was gold or higher, showed them libre office which they could not complain about since it generally works a lot nicer, and it turned out that other software was available as a .deb. After all of this, the reason they gave me was "but I like Windows".

Fair enough I guess, though they couldn't really produce the reason as to why.

Generally, people just don't like any kind of change, even if it has the potential to make them a lot happier.

[-] Broken@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

It's my opinion that most people think of all the technology as it were 15 years ago. Apple was innovative, Google wasn't evil, Windows worked well, and Linux was not as accessible as it is today.

I had two bouts with Linux in the distant past, and neither time did I think Linux was anything worth pursuing. Not that it was bad, I just didn't see a benefit over the alternatives. In fact the alternatives had all the benefits in my mind.

When I switched a year ago, I was blown away how far it had come as far as being accessible. Now I can't imagine using Windows as my primary OS ever again.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 6 days ago

I think for the MS Office thing, it depends on what it’s being used for. If it’s just creating a fresh document or editing a simple existing docx, LibreOffice it totally fine; I’ve heavily exclusively used LibreOffice Writer during my time in college and been okay, as I’m either just writing in MLA or using a provided Word file that I can then just save as an ODT after initial conversion and export as a PDF when it comes time to turn it in.

However, from what I can tell, if you’re working in an organization that extensively uses MS Office, files may need to survive multiple openings and edits between multiple editors, and multiple cycles of translating between document representations can lead to degraded documents and just make your work life absolutely miserable. Thus, LibreOffice isn’t an option, though I hear there are more MS-compatible suites that are usable on Linux, though not all of them FOSS.

This is why I’ve so far left my mother alone about Linux; maybe if I saw some evidence that her workflow would be more amenable to LibreOffice than I think it is, I’d reconsider.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

I just had the damnest experience with Office. Some institution required me to deliver a "doc" document with it's respective PDF. I'm a Linux user, so there was gonna be some trouble. This document was viewed and edited by several instances, so I decided to use an online tool. Google Docs it was, but this was before the doc requirement. So, after the fact, my solution was similar: to just use the online version of Office, which I had access to through my job. Cool. Well, no. Delivered the document and the doc wasn't consistent with the Office desktop they were using. Long story short I had to figure out their Office version and borrow a computer with the same Office desktop version they were using, pirated, of course.

My experience with LibreOffice is it works fine if you're doing straightforward things by yourself. MLA formatted essay? "Twelve point double-spaced Times New Roman or you get a zero" and they never noticed my papers were Liberation Sans? Sure that works. "Pick a partner and make a 20 slide PowerPoint presentation" is a nightmare because sharing files back and forth between Powerpoint and Impress doesn't work very well.

The more usable solution to that is Google Docs. I had a group project with four other guys, and we were all sat around a table typing in the same document at the same time on three different operating systems. Played perfectly well with Windows, Mac and Linux. Us Linux nerds who hate "the cloud" because "someone else's computer" and Google because "~~Don't~~ Be Evil" kind of lurch at that one, but it functions.

[-] HouseWolf@pawb.social 35 points 1 week ago

not wanting to go through the process of backing up files

This was a big thing when I was helping some people with Windows 10s EOL, A lot of folks just don't have a 2nd drive to back stuff up onto.

As a compulsive data-hoarder the idea of having everything on a single drive with no backup plan, local or "cloud" based... Terrifying! You could write a horror movie about it.

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[-] Yaky@slrpnk.net 65 points 1 week ago

Some years ago, mentioning Linux for daily non-gaming use:

Guy: "Installing Linux is complicated though"

Me: "It wasn't bad 10 years ago, and now it's as hard as clicking Next a few times, even faster than Windows"

Guy: "Well duh, you have ten years of experience installing it!"

Difficult to argue with this non-logic.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

My almost 70yr old mother installed mint herself. Her tech literacy level is Word Processing with a dash of Solitaire.

[-] mikerr@programming.dev 64 points 1 week ago

"Never used Linux," They say, typing on a chromebook or android phone, before picking up their steamdeck.

[-] yoevli@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Not to interject, but when people talk about using "Linux" they're generally referring to desktop Linux (usually GNU/Linux). ChromeOS and SteamOS are Linux distros of a sort under the hood, but they're also highly curated experiences. Android technically uses the Linux kernel but architecturally it's so drastically different from basically any other system using it that it's quite misleading to call it "Linux" in the colloquial sense.

[-] sibachian@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago

while browsing the web (hosted on linux).

[-] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 week ago

If it came pre-installed on laptop majority wouldn't mind.

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[-] mko@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 week ago

”You can’t trust free software”

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 week ago

Devil's advocate here. When people complain about phone calls, or going out in public, or being social, I think "it's not hard." I know for some people it is a massive hassle.

Apply that same sentiment to having to learn an OS that is irrelevant to your job or seems difficult or you're not interested in.

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago

My grandfather's reason for it. "It will be too different from my current system"

... the only thing he does is the web browser, and bookworm deluxe which i have confirmed does work via wine. I was recommending him install an OS called q4os, which I have on my laptop, I showed him the side by side comparison of q4os vs windows. For a point of reference this is what q4os looks like a desktop interface of q4OS that is similar to windows XP or 7 in design

I think he is too scared of change.

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[-] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 week ago

Why you out there telling people to install it? Those who want it will find it. This isn't an evangelical mission.

[-] audaxdreik@pawb.social 26 points 1 week ago

Isn't it?

The arguments of preference and convenience are falling by the wayside as megacorporations take more and more control over not just your hardware but your behavioral patterns by dictating what you can install and how it functions. They suck up all your personal, private data for AI training without your consent.

I get it, shit sucks. It really does, but we have to remember who is to blame here and it's not each other. There has to be some urgency here because this is a battle and we, the consumers, the ordinary people, are surely losing. It's not about being holier than thou, it's about lifting each other up.

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[-] apostate9@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The whatchacallit, terminal with super cryptic commands is too hard. When I go on the internet and say my system has a problem and they tell me to type sudo pacman -Syu, I need something more easier than that. You know like-- with more steps. And five modal GUIs. And buttons.

[-] blackbrook@mander.xyz 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This was quite a few years ago, but a friend of mine said he'd tried Linux but had switched back because some clipboard feature he was used to using didn't work (sorry, I forget the details). He was a programmer to, so perfectly capable of troubleshooting or finding some alternative tool. I just stared at him dumbfounded.

[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I get him though, mouse wheel click for a secondary copy buffer is one of the main things that's extremely annoying to me when I have to use Windows, I can never retrain my brain to stop doing it and I get annoyed that it doesn't work until I remember why.

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[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

"Lack of consensus on pronunciation of name."

And I stand by it.

[-] ApertureUA@lemmy.today 8 points 6 days ago

Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux as Linux

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[-] Decency8401@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 week ago

"Linux isn't made for professional use" - Colleague from Work who is an Apple stan. And yes he bought the Apple™ Cloth for iPhone.

[-] Sludge@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago

What if the browser doesn't work? It will work.

[-] TerHu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

my motherboards drivers don’t come with windows, and so when i tried to install it and it forced me to connect to the internet, i just couldn’t. luckily i found a usb dongle to ethernet which worked ootb.

never had a weird mono driver issue like that on any linux distro i tried.

[-] abuttandahalf@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

I did because the laptop I had bought had a brand new processor and not all the drivers were in the kernel version that was in the distro's newest ISO. I had to plug in a keyboard, screen, and network adapter to install the right kernel.

[-] HouseWolf@pawb.social 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A surprising amount of people have put up this mental wall separating "SteamOS" from Linux.

I've had this conversation with multiple people and it's being brought up again because of the Steam Machine announcement.

Some (very few) legitimately didn't know SteamOS was a Linux distro, Or they knew it was based on Linux but thought it used a whole different user ecosystem. Like how Android is technically Linux but using it is nothing like using desktop Linux. These people I've found are more willing to actually look into Linux after someone's explained to them that SteamOS is just Linux. And that there's even SteamOS-like Linux distros you can use right now!

Then you have those who are hard-line about having Official SteamOS. And most of the time they have some misguided believe along the line of, SteamOS is Linux but Valve has fixed all the "Linux issues". And for a lot of them you're probably not going to get far convincing them that mainline Linux isn't just endless command lines these days.

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