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submitted 3 days ago by flamiera@kbin.melroy.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Everytime Microsoft blunders, which is a lot and it is reported, it never fails that there will be numerous individuals proclaiming their switch to Linux. But I always feel like a lot of it is just simply clout, a pat-on-the-back feeling for deciding against the masses kind of feel.

And it always makes me beg to really see how those kind of people fare if they actually did switch and use Linux on a daily basis.

I'll take anyone seriously if they actually switch and sometimes actually talk to me about how their Linux experience is going. Because more times than not, I always assume it's some dual-boot user who could sneak their way back to Windows time to time and barely use Linux.

And I'll see the statistics of the OS marketshare budge...slightly, for Linux. I'm proud that Linux at all that it is gaining more usage than it has before than where it had been 15+ years ago and earlier.

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[-] Ooops@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

No, why would it bother me.

Some people need to voice their opinions loudly, some don't. Doesn't matter much for me.

The number of "I'm switching to Linux" comments or the change in frequency however is a reasonable indicator for public opinion (under the assumption that there is no sudden global increase in extroverts needing to voice their opinion loudly...).

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Well I switched before it was cool.

[-] leftascenter@jlai.lu 1 points 1 day ago

It's still good PR for linux

[-] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

You're a windows user ? Chop wood and carry water.

You're a Linux user ? Chop wood and carry water.

You're a BSD user ? Chop wood and carry water (less easily)

You're a templeOS user ? Wow

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Switching to Linux, if the person is actually switching, can be seen as a rebellious action against the corporate, capitalist dystopia we're already in.

I consider this a good thing.

[-] JoshsJunkDrawer@lemmy.ml 30 points 3 days ago

I'm more bothered by keyboard warriors intent on gatekeeping.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Like what, exactly?

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

I said it somewhere around 2003, did it immediately, never looked back.

I've been a Linux desktop user for well over 2 decades now, and anytime I see a Windows user with windows problems I just roll my eyes. My eyes by now have the ability to make 360 degree barrel rolls after all the practice.

Yeah, sure, I've had problems here and there.

Mostly self inflicted whilst trying out new shit. I've hada lot of help. When lvm was introduced back in whenever, I immediately switched and it fucked one of my drives. One of the developers of lvm spent hours trying to help me fix it. Talking about your tech support! Windows tech support won't get me the main devs to help me out.

Linux mostly has been "once it works, it works, and it remains working until you change something". I know it's not entirely like that, but it's nowhere near the Microsoft "well just reinstall it every three months because after that it'll just get so slow and bogged up that it won't work normal anymore"

I put my mother in law on a Kubuntu system probably about 10 years ago, and she's used it for at least 7 years straight. Nothing crazy, browsing, solitaire, etc. but a 65+ yo had no issues with running that.

I created a multi user linux machine some 15+ years ago in an intel Celeron with 1GB of ram and 4 video cards (plus the internal video). With USB splitters we had 5x USB Audio, keyboard, and mouse, with 5 monitors for the video. We created a setup program that allowed a teacher to easily identify what keyboard,I use, and audio went with what monitor once and them it would keep that setup forever. The desktop was skinned to look and feel like Windows XP to not scare people.

5 people could work on that simultaneously, and one of them could run real windows in a virtualbox instance. It all worked, flawlessly. The work I did was fun, interesting, and awesome, but the real work was already done, right there, with the Linux kernel, and X. I was merely standing on the shoulders of giants, and the total development cost of the system (including research, salaries, hardware, etc) was around $30KUSD

Try that with windows.

Linux and Linux desktop are awesome 💯😎

[-] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 49 points 3 days ago

No, using an OS is not something that requires a promise of commitment. It's a utility needed for using a computer.

As enthusiasts we want as many people as possible to use good OSs, even if it ends at just trying it out.
The more people try Linux the better regardless of their motives.

[-] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago

Many of us have switched to Linux and haven't looked back. Just because we're not posting about it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[-] banazir@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago

I spare very little mental capacity to how people utilize their computers where it doesn't directly affect me. No, it is not something I find worth being bothered about. Life's hard enough regardless.

[-] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

I could not give two shits what the reasons are and with which frequency someone uses Linux vs Windows say. If you use it you use it: welcome and enjoy your stay.

The community won't grow meaningfully with gatekeeping and elitist behaviour.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, it has never even once bothered my why people install Linux on their own hardware. Not even now that you have brought it to my attention. What is on my mind right now is why you care so much.

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[-] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

I've never perceived it as rebellious.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 12 points 3 days ago

Every time someone says "I can't stand the gaslighting and abuse anymore. This time I'm leaving him." it's an opportunity for them to really follow through.

Sometimes we are held back more by the stories we tell ourselves than our actual capacities. And the solution is to stop telling ourselves what we can't do, but telling ourselves that we can and even will change our situations.

[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

I find it amusing. I'm a die hard Linux user, but I never "switched". I still have windows machines I just don't like them.

[-] Maiq@piefed.social 14 points 3 days ago

A small act of rebellion can be revolutionary to the lives it changes.

[-] MXX53@programming.dev 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No. I do not care what operating system people use, how they use it, if they dual boot, etc. If someone reaches out to me for help with Linux, I will help out and provide suggestions and guidance. If someone wants to dual boot and mostly use windows, cool. If they want to go back to windows or MacOS after using Linux, cool.

I use what I use, the way I use it, because it works for me. Because I enjoy it. Because I find value in it.

What other people decide to do or not do with their operating system choice has no effect on my life, or my thoughts, whatsoever.

If I was feeling as described in this post, I would take some time away from the internet.

[-] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 16 points 3 days ago

no. and why does it matter to you so much? If someone wants to say they switched to linux then awesome, have at it, good job, have fun and all that. but then you roll in with "ok...how are you using it? show me!" who cares? you're literally gate keeping an operating system.

you don't have to commit to a damn operating system, it's a tool. If I had a Brand A hammer and it really sucked I'd swap it for a Brand B hammer that was suggested to me. Now if Brand A suddenly started producing a better hammer and admitted their previous hammer was garbage then I would consider going back to Brand A.

If Microsoft came out tomorrow and said "you know what? we were wrong. We were wrong about AI, we were wrong about 11, we're going to provide you with a better OS" I would consider going back to it. I'd at the very least try it. Or if someone came out with something brand new that wasn't Linux or MacOS or Windows and it was a better tool than all of them I'd switch to that.

The point is I'm not going to lose sleep over someone wanting to switch and then not, why do I care? I got more stuff to worry about than some random stranger on the internet not using a specific OS. What DOES bother me more are people replying to comments where someone is having issues with Windows and says "just use linux" that isn't helping anyone and you come off as a basement dwelling asshole that's waiting on their chicken nuggies to finish heating in the microwave.

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[-] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 14 points 3 days ago

Here's my analogy:

I've been in the culinary industry 37+ years and a lot of famous chefs have come and gone, a lot have been very disparaged by regular chefs in the industry.

But here's the thing: those famous chefs promote your industry, which in turn offers you more opportunities. They should be embraced, and not shit on.

Anyone who shows an interest, even if it's only 'fashionable' because MS fucked up again, should be given the benefit of the doubt and assisted (if that's your thing) or encouraged to break away from the kings of enshitification.

[-] Quazatron@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Why should it bother me? It's not like I have Linux corporation stock. I'm just a longtime happy user.

[-] juipeltje@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I don't see what's wrong with dualbooting. I was using only linux full time for 4 years, until one of my favorite online games started using anti-cheat. Some people might say that i should've just given up the game, but i chose to dualboot. And now i just bought an LG OLED C5 as a gaming monitor, realized hdmi 2.1 isn't working with amd on linux, so i switched my dualboot around where windows now uses the bigger SSD, cause i have to pretty much play everything through windows for the best experience. It sucks, but linux is still there for productivity, and general tasks that i don't want microsoft to snoop in on. Windows is purely a gaming system for me now. Using the right tool for the job and all that.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Sure but now you've gone from not using windows to mostly using windows.

[-] juipeltje@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I guess i'm not commited enough lol. I didn't want to pay out the ass for a similar sized monitor either, that would've still had less features as well. The tv was just way more versatile, aside from the dp thing, especially since i also still play on consoles. I saw you deleted your other comment, but no, there aren't any good adapters that can actually provide all the features i want to use, including vrr, so i just can't see that working. Maybe these issues will be resolved at some point in the future, and i can move most of my gaming back to linux, but for now it's mostly going to be productivity, and i still daily drive it on my laptop since that thing can barely play games anyway.

[-] staciagrey@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nothing is wrong with it. Anyone who does it longterm, knows how hectic the stress of maintaining two different ecosystem becomes. You do what works best for you! Gaming has come along way on Linux but still Nvidia users see 20% less performance on X12. I know that want more user to come to Linux so more development will shift the market share. Also, some photos and video and software edditing requires mainstream. Shine you Dual Boot. I'm always running at least a second VM myself to have an isolated sandbox for my P2P.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Booting Windows after not using it for two months feels like putting your hand in a meat grinder

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Windows never has been the right tool, or even a tool for that matter. That Microsoft managed to convince people that it was actually a usable, efficient and safe system has been one of the biggest marketing tricks, ever.

The simple reason why some hardware may still not work right on Linux can be traced back to that same Microsoft marketing.

My hope is that with this next wave of people swapping over to limit that companies (both hardware providers but also companies in general) finally start seeing the light and make the switch as well

[-] juipeltje@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I'm not saying i like windows, but i literally cannot do on linux what i want to do with my setup right now. Linux doesn't work, windows does, so windows is the right tool at the moment, because it is the only tool, unless i go out of my way to get a different gpu, which i'm not going to do.

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[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

It was for me about ten years ago, but because of that brief dalliance, when Microsoft really finally started running toward this particular cliff last year, I was already familiar enough with Linux to be comfortable diving in completely; I don't have a single Windows install in my house anymore. So it's not always for nothing.

[-] frog@lemmus.org 12 points 3 days ago

Nope - if there are swathes who say they want to switch to Linux but 'don't commit', that just reveals there is a real gap where Linux needs to be easier for people to install and use on a daily basis.

Most people don't want to be a mechanic, they just want a car

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[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 9 points 3 days ago

It kinda feels like the digital equivalent of "I'M MOVING TO CANADA" in a lot of cases.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the compliment!

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[-] fratermus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 3 days ago

No.

People who say "I'm switching to linux" are like people who threaten to leave the country if [fill in the blank] is elected. I pay attention more to people who say "I switched to linux" or "I left the country". Or those who revert the decision later.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

sometimes people need time, it's ok to prepare yourself for the switch by slowly going foss, for example. a lot of them end up switching eventually.

[-] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

people performatively declaring they are going to Linux doesn't bother me at all. its good press, builds its reputation. people try new things for deep reasons sometimes, but also for casual curiosity and fashion following, and that's ok.

[-] harcesz@szmer.info 9 points 3 days ago

No. Positions Linux as an alternative in broader part of the society.

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[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago

I mean I did not post anything about switching but have commented multiple times. Fact is I should have switched awhile back as I already knew it had gotten to the point it could do everything I needed it to. Windows 11 was the tipping point. I could no longer delay and it was already a massive pain to block the telemetry and such especially since updates would regularly reactivate things..

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[-] wellbudyweek@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

I use Linux because it works for me, does what I want (and doesn't do what I don't want) most of the time. For me, it works much nicer than Windows or MacOs.

What works for you, is your thing. I don't care. That is I'm happy for you if you got an OS that works for you, and if it doesn't, I'll be happy to help if I can, but if you want to stay with Windows that's fine with me. Linux has its own problems, which are different from Windows. Depending on your needs, I can understand why one would choose one over the other, for both choises.

Personally I don't like people who give unasked opinions regarding which OS I should use. (Unasked being key there).

Does it bother me if people shout about that they are changing to Linux while they don't? Not at all. Does it bother me if people shout that I should change to Linux? Yes.

[-] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I don't care the reason, I just want to share my love for linux with others, even if they don't switch

[-] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 3 days ago

I always feel like a lot of it is just simply clout, a pat-on-the-back feeling for deciding against the masses kind of feel.

I think that's more a reflection of you than anyone else.

I always assume it's some dual-boot user who could sneak their way back to Windows

Everyone knows only posers use both! /s

[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm an old head, having daily-driven Linux since 2012, and so far it's been great. And the current pathetic state of Windows further reinforces my resolve to not go back to running that OS, or when or if I do end up running it, only doing so in a VM or on a secondary machine.

Due to the downward spiral Windows is going on right now, it ain't touching baremetal on my main system, and that includes LTSC. I genuinely do not trust Windows outside of a VM or burner box.

[-] audaxdreik@pawb.social 6 points 3 days ago

No. The rebellious spirit is what lights the fire. It may take a few tries to follow through, but I respect the rage >=D

We need to come together as a community and encourage every effort. If you really want to see other people stick to it we need to smash any sense of righteousness or gatekeeping to bits.

[-] mko@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 days ago

I suppose I am one of those, although the process has been gradual over the last years.

Do I still use Windows? Yes - I earn a living designing and developing solutions in the ecosystem, although it is mostly on the corp server side of things. Azure can be easily managed on any of the three big OS’s.

Do I dual boot? Yes, but less and less. For gaming, flight sims are still not supported enough on Linux - to many extensions and add-ons are just not there yet. I am primarily on Linux though and all of my non-sim gaming on Linux nowadays. On my work laptop the Windows partition is bricked (as in Windows Update said bye-bye to it), so next re-install of Ubuntu LTS next year will see the Windows partition wiped.

Am I nostalgic about Windows? Not yet, after 1-2 years of Linux practically full time. Win11 is still on a downward trajectory. Linux is getting better with every distro release.

Have I gone more hard core in my Linux journey? I dabble in EndeavorOS, but mostly run Ubuntu. I am happy that it works. I am comfortable in the terminal so any DE works as long as it leaves me be.

Will I go back to Windows? Microsoft have a lot of work in front of them to regain my trust. It will be a harder switch with the Linux experience being as good as it is.

Do I have any sympathy for those who try and revert? Sure - change is difficult for many.

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