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[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

Then you're immune for life

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingles

Shingles is caused by the varicella zoster virus (VZV) that also causes chickenpox.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago

I had chicken pox really bad as a kid. I had from the tips of my toes to the top of my head ... spots in every part of my body - EVERY PART OF MY BODY! ... I even have a few left over scars from that ordeal.

I'm middle aged now and I had shingles about five years ago and it was horrible. It burns and itches and at the height of the infection it feels like you suffered from third degree burns and the damned skin itches and you keep wanting to touch it.

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

My experience with chicken pox mirrors yours - they were everywhere. I'm approaching middle age (or there, depending on who you ask (👉゚ヮ゚)👉), and I'm hoping it doesn't happen to me. But I know it's just hanging out there in my spine... waiting.

[-] Talaraine@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago

Get that shingles vaccine asap. My Dad is the most stoic person I know when it comes to sickness and he literally CALLED ME ON THE PHONE howling about how bad it hurt. Don't be my Dad, y'all.

[-] evilcultist@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Shingles can get in your eyes and cause you to go blind, too.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Brought about by stress .... I was going through a fairly stressful time with work, travelling to a new place and trying to make ends meet. Keep a good diet, exercise, eat healthy, sleep well and keep the stress down ... if you mess any of those up, you're increasing chances of that infection just creeping up. Like others have said, it's probably best to just get the shingles vaccine.

[-] CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago

I had chicken pox twice.

Once the normal variety when I was like 6 or whatever, then when I was like 11 or so I got it again when visiting my grandma who just hosted young kids. It was largely the same, except it had rings around the spots. They did tests and confirmed it was a mutated variety of common chicken pox.

I’m terrified of shingles outbreaks because I may have two strains lying dormant in my body, but I’m “too young for the shingles vax”

[-] klemptor@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I'd get the shingles vax in a heartbeat, but I've gotta wait another 6 years. Meanwhile I know several people who developed shingles in their forties and have lingering issues from it (particularly ophthalmic). The vaccine needs to be tested and approved for younger adults. But I doubt that'll happen. They'll just wait until those of us who got chicken pox as a kid are old enough for the shingles vaccine, and who cares if we get shingles in the meantime!

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[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I had chicken pox as a kid. I think the vaccine for it only came out after my youngest sibling was around the age for it, as she is the only one of us that got the vaccination and not the illness itself.

Fuck this mentality. Nobody deserves to suffer that shit just because you and I had to. You're supposed to try and give your kids a better experience than you had. Vaccinate your god damn children.

[-] TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

I was really young when I got chicken pox, maybe 5 years old? The thing I remember most is getting winter mittens taped to my hands so I couldn’t scratch my butthole until it bled. It was TORTURE. No one should have to suffer like that if they don’t have to.

[-] Gnugit@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

I remember getting two weeks off school, the first week was a little tough but the second week was joy.

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

"long-term complications of childhood chicken pox" is one search that they don't do

[-] wavebeam@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Profound hole in the “do your own research” theory: not knowing how to do thorough research

[-] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Even if they get the right search terms, they'll just keep scrolling till they find an obscure blog with an anecdote from 2 mothers which confirms their existing bias.

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[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Once upon a time trepanning - drilling a hole in the skull to "let evil spirits out" - was a common medical practice. We don't do that anymore either, for what I should hope are obvious reasons.

Mercury was once used as a treatment for syphilis, among many other things. Lobotomies, radium "treatment", cocaine and heroin was used as a treatment for children with a cough, smoking was recommended as a treatment for asthma, electroshock therapy was used for damn near everything, induced insulin comas, arsenic and lead, tapeworm diets...

You all get the point.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I think they also used malaria as a treatment for syphilis, then treated the malaria with quinine

[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 2 points 1 month ago

I was just reading about that. Good grief.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

I feel like two of those are more "counterpoint" than "point".

[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

If shingles are good for a roof, why not you? Checkmate liberals

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, I don't wanna hear shit about chickenpox being good for a child. I was too young to be able to get the vaccine and because of that, there's a chance I get the complications of getting pox that you get later in life. It wasn't even my own parents fault, since I caught it in daycare.

Also, if I remember correctly, Japan rolled out the first chickenpox vaccines to prevent it from becoming a mass epidemic on their island nation.

Edit:

It's shingles. That's the complication that can happen later in life after having pox.

[-] wavebeam@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Shingles fuckin sucks. Had it crop up when I was in 6th grade, only like 5 or 6 years after having chicken pox. Miserable week or so. Not that I’ll have to, but I wouldn’t make my kids go to school if they had shingles.

[-] Substance_P@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

It's absolutely better to get chicken pox than shingles, but if you get the vaccine, you get neither. But hey, I get it, big pharma is a monster, but many that rally against vaccines also use Ozempic, and plastic surgery etc. Is RFK really onto a thing with vaccines when he's taking steroids?

[-] bjorney@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

It's absolutely better to get chicken pox than shingles

It's not one or the other though. If you don't get chicken pox you can't get shingles

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[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Chickenpox isn't quite as bad as some of the other viruses but Shingles is horrid and you can only get shingles if you've had chickenpox which is more that enough reason to vaccinate your children. All I can wish on her is chronic chickenpox with exposure on her face and scalp.

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 weeks ago

It's awful as an adult, though. I got it when I was older and ended up in the hospital when I complained to my parents about how the walls had started melting. I had a raging fever and pneumonia.

[-] statler_waldorf@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 weeks ago

I have a older relative whose shingles affected his nervous system and it led to encephalitis.

I wonder if she has natural remedies for that.

[-] stinerman@midwest.social 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I didn't get chicken pox until I was a Freshman in high school. It fucking sucked and I missed a lot of wrestling season because of it.

One of my biggest regrets is that I didn't ask to be vaccinated. Sure that's kinda my parents' fault but I never asked about it.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

Why would it being acceptable 30 years ago mean anything at all in this context? Who fucking cares what was acceptable 30 years ago?

Science progresses. We understand things more over time. That's how it works.

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lmdao can you even do your own research? Sience goes counter upside in a clock by three west direction, not forwards.

And vaccines are full of tiny bees that tell the government whenever you masturbate. Do you WANT masturbation bees? Pffffffff

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

masturbation bees?

New kink activated.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Did the downvoters think this was a serious comment? So many questions.

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago

I'm sorry, what about masturbation bees are not serious to you?

[-] saroh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It's even worse than this. From Wikipedia:

The chickenpox vaccine first became commercially available in 1984.[10] It was first licensed for use in the US by Merck, under the brand name Varivax, in 1995.

So in a way it being acceptable 30 years ago does mean something. Not what the author thought though.

[-] Australis13@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

Yes, the author is stupid to be advocating for chicken pox.

Even setting aside the discomfort of chicken pox, catching chicken pox (particularly as a young child) increases the risk of shingles. Nobody in their right mind wants shingles.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Not just discomfort, it can, in some cases, leave you with permanent injury.

[-] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 weeks ago

So drink uranium water, put lead in your car and fill your walls with asbestos.

A lot of things where normal

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[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Chicken pox vaccine is a relatively recent invention. Before vaccination we knew that chicken pox was bad in kids but very bad in adults so better to get it as a kid if you had to get it at all. The vaccine changes the equation and not being able to evaluate that is a sign of stupidity. The vitriol from other parents is because she is hurting kids because she's stupid.

[-] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Kate is all 7 of those things. 30 years ago it would have been fine to tell her so. What happened to society?

[-] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

I had chicken pox when I was three and it's one of my few memories from that time in my life.

Fuuuuuck these people abusing their children.

[-] Uri@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago

That's a normal Facebook post for you.

[-] Uri@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago

And people are fucking supporting this shit. Fuck Facebook this fucking malware is brain washing people.

[-] rarsamx@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago

By the way, even if you don't remember if you got smallpox as a child, vaccinate now against shingles!

Yes, there is a vaccine and based on people who have shingles, you really don't want to get it.

[-] gjoel@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

In Denmark we don't vaccinate for chicken pox for exactly the reasons given in the post.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I am currently in the middle of my second round of shingles. I have extreme pain from my right knee, up through my groin, and over my buttock, and to the middle of my chest on the right side. Any touch, including my underwear, clothes, and bed sheets is very painful. Putting my underwear on and taking it off is agony.

I am contagious so I can't go anywhere near children or the immune compromised.

Fortunately I have access to modern medicine and got a prescription for famcyclovir for the shingles and pregabalin for the nerve pain.

Seriously, get your children vaccinated. If you haven't had chicken pox get yourself vaccinated. If you had chicken pox get the shingles vaccine. If you got the old shingles vaccine get the new shingles vaccine, it's better.

And, most important of all, fuck the antivaxers.

[-] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yup, I've had shingles twice both on my left shoulder and I'm not even 40. On top of that I've developed chronic nerve pain in the same place that was so bad a few years ago i thought it was a heart attack. I've got it managed now after trying half a dozen drugs over 2 years until i found one that worked with minimal side effects.

If all that could have been avoided with a vaccine when i was a kid, I'd hate my parents if they didn't get it for me.

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[-] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The vaccine was just after I got it. Miserable. I lived in an oatmeal bath. My poor mother got it as an adult (when we got it and gave it to her)

She was worse up in all ways.

I'd have gnawed someone's ankle off to have gotten the vaccine instead. But especially for my mother to have gotten it.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Chicken pox was. Miserable, and I'm didn't have it that bad.

Give the kids the vaccine

[-] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

In other news, measles is spreading in Canada and the US (but only Canada is reporting it)

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

"Being miserable builds character!"

[-] Leet@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

We all had it when we were kids. A friend of mine had it really bad and he has pock marks all over his face and body, he was always the handsome one, but after that it changed him and he was never the same again.

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