125

cross-posted from: https://fed.dyne.org/post/822710

Salesforces has entered a phase of public reckoning after senior executives publicly admitted that the company overestimated AI’s readiness

top 18 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 60 points 5 months ago

“We assumed the technology was further along than it actually was,” one executive said privately

Assumed? They fired nearly half their customer service team on an assumption? Why do they get paid that much money then?

Unfortunately they've wrecked 4000 lives, but they'll take big bonuses and walk away winners.

[-] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 38 points 5 months ago

Executives are often the most smug, overconfident, easiest to bullshit individuals. You're the easiest to fool when you believe you can't be fooled, and you're most likely to make a bad management decision when you're put in a position that says "you're allowed to decide stuff because you're incredibly smart and correct."

A company doesn't have to convince everyone who works for a company, or even just the people who are going to get fired. They just have to convince one dude who has power at the organization, and suddenly 4,000 people get fucked.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Don't forget that they're only accountable to investors who are extremely gullible, especially in the tech and sales sectors.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

This was a staggeringly short-sighted and inept move by the senior management of Salesforce. But then from everything I've heard of that company, this is just par for the course.

[-] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 months ago

So they fired some of the execs that made this call right? /s

[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

Nope. Good ole boys gonna good ole boy.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

They are one of the worst companies to work with, especially if you manage corporate email systems. I think RIM is the only company that caused me more pain in my career. They really are very poorly managed, and their systems are straight garbage. But they keep making money because execs gonna exec.

[-] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

their systems are straight garbage

Unequivocally complete and utter garbage. I led an engineering team at a multinational energy efficiency company. My team built an extremely performant upstream and downstream intervention solution for US utilities, completely in ASP.NET and SQL Server. It was broadly used, on-prem, maintainable, extendable, and more importantly cheap to run. Single proc at every tier.

A new VP came on and had some wiry hair up his sandy ass about doing everything in Force. He refused to listen to anyone on my team about how this was a bad idea. So we built a POC and gave us 4 weeks to go live. The new solution was glacial in its performance, brittle, and expensive. I forget the numbers, but I recall that our cloud spend that first month of deployment would have bought us four more clusters of hardware and MS licenses. His response? Moar Force! You're doing it wrong.

All of us who could jump ship were gone before the second month on the new solution. He somehow survived another 3 months before he got fired, but the damage was done. Oh well. Salesforce, not even once.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah that sounds about right! It’s like riding the Facepalm Express.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 5 months ago

Someone I know at FEMA was talking about they have an old system for disaster claims that IBM wrote for them many years back, and how FEMA just signed a deal with sales force to replace it

I was like... Oh, buddy, you have a very custom fit solution and very complicated workflows...

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

RIM

Now that is a name I haven't heard in a very long time

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I am so sorry.

[-] acchariya@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

More evidence that LLMs are perfectly suited to emulate the incompetence of senior executives.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago

or replace them,

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 points 5 months ago

maybe replace your DOUCHEBAG ceo.

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 5 points 5 months ago

Sales

Ah, the scourge of capitalism.
I got some snake oil in my boot to sell you.

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 5 months ago

Sucks to suck, fuckers.

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately, I don't see any indication of comprehension of the real problem on the part of the executives. To them, they just had an ooops, we should have waited a bit longer. They aren't going to rethink the strategy. They're going to throw money at it until it works. They will probably throw more money than it would have cost to keep those pesky humans, but there's a more important goal there that they're not saying out loud.

this post was submitted on 28 Dec 2025
125 points (98.4% liked)

Leopards Ate My Face

9900 readers
3 users here now

Rules:

  1. The mods are fallible; if you've been banned or had a post/comment removed, please appeal.
  2. Off-topic posts will be removed. If you don't know what "Leopards ate my Face" is, try reading this post.
  3. If the reason your post meets Rule 1 isn't in the source, you must add a source in the post body (not the comments) to explain this. If the reason is in the source but is tedious to find (e.g. in a lengthy video), you must add an explanation for where it is.
  4. Posts should use high-quality sources (for a rough idea, check out this list), and posts should retain the title (if one exists) from works like news articles, videos, etc. You may (but need not) edit your post if the source changes the title. Other types of posts should have a title which accurately, relatively neutrally describes their contents.
  5. For accessibility reasons, an image of text must either have alt text or a transcription in the post body.
  6. Reposts within 1 year or the Top 100 of all time are subject to removal. Within moderator discretion, this doesn't just include reposts of the exact same media but also includes e.g. a secondary source telling basically the exact same story as another that was already posted.
  7. This is not exclusively a US politics community. You're encouraged to post stories about anyone from any place in the world at any point in history as long as you meet the other rules.
  8. All Lemmy.World Terms of Service apply.

Also feel free to check out:

Icon credit C. Brück on Wikimedia Commons.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS