Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow."

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.

So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

It bothers me a lot how Apple became the de-facto setters of Emoji, even though the actual body behind them is much more complex and diverse.

Just check social media, it's filled with people asking "Apple, why this emoji and not this one?" or "Did you see the new emojis that Apple added to the iPhone?" and so on. But it goes beyond, if Apple's emojis depict a figure in a particular way, almost everybody else will clone that depiction on their fonts too, meaning Apple gets to set the interpretation of a given Emoji almost across all platforms.

I mean, I love them both but we still need a crow

That's a whole lot of inaccessible text stuffed in an image where a link would have made sense for everybody.

Soon they will eat crow when they realize their error

Emojis were a mistake.

Mostly unrelated, but -- are there any black birds that sing in the dead of night?? Was McCartney high when he heard that?

i added some links in my crosspost of this in !emoji@lemmy.ml:

• https://mefi.social/@HarryRutherford/109935858214218911
• https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2019/19307-crow-emoji.pdf
• https://emojipedia.org/black-bird

I love how nerds will be over paid to over intellectualize shit (the document proposing this being in needlessly specific legalese speak) and still get it wrong in the end