Carney is very conservative. He was well liked by Harper and is to the right of Trudeau. We really need actual leftists and not bankers leading the way and I regret voting for him and not voting NDP or to a communist party (even if they had no chance of winning).

Yea, but they hold power and we can't pay rent. But let's use our collective anger to left pray things will change

There is more to Carney than I thought.

Having read his book before the election, this is exactly who I expected when I voted.

Pretty uniquely honest for a Western leader to recognize the double standards within that old order which was designed to maintain Western hegemony at the expense of the Global South.

Listening to him again reminded me of '08 when he helped lead us out of the Wall St shit storm. It's the main reason I voted for him too. He tells the truth - no sugar coating, no dumb cliches, no lies to make you feel better.

I'm not happy with everything he's done (see Bill C-2) but when things get rough he lays the cards on the table and says it like it is.

I watched the whole speech. I am so proud to be Canadian!! I love that we have an educated, worldly, Prime Minister. He’s fucking amazing!

The actual speech

At some point during the speech this popped in my head:

I just cannot imagine the world of shit we'd be living in if he had won the election. Even since, he's contributed absolutely nothing to the political discourse in this country. And he's changing seats, again.

(And I know Draper is an asshole, I just mean the whole vibe is what came to mind. I don't think I've heard Carney even mention Polievre since letting him have a seat with the by-election).

We would already be the 51st state.

He'd bend over and ask for Canada to take more. Nothing I've read from him sounds like a proper leader of this country. He's as whiny as a toddler like the neighbor's 'leader'. Calling that thing a leader is laughable, he couldn't lead a train on the track unless there was a pile of gold in sight.

PP at the world economic forum:

GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GAH... We need to support our allies in seizing Greenland GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK

"We knew RBIO was bullshit the whole time but we thought we could fake it til we make it" is pretty real and based.

We are no longer relying on just the strength of our values but also the value of our strength

Now it would be a shame if Russia or China would make the same comment, would it not?

I wish he was less of a, you know, investor capitalist, but his take on international relations is a wonder to behold. This speech basically boiled down to his election speeches, calling out the US, and telling the world that the Big Fish are nobody's friend, and that the rest of us need to partner up and stop competing with each other to simp for the Americans.

He basically declared that the American Empire is over, and we're done acting as a vassal state.

Fucking wild. I never thought I'd live to see the day.

I took that as more of an anti-soviet dig instead of an anti-worker dig.

There's no doubt that infected dictatorships co-opt valid communist, leftist, socialist and working-class rhetoric to serve their own selfish authoritarian agenda.

I think he's just a capitalist banker with agenda to push capitalist friendly policies but in the context of how he compares it to rules based order (a potentially good thing) I don't think this is what he meant. He says we pretend we have rules based order because it was a good thing even though we know at heart that strong powers can act outside the rules. The shop owners pretend the workers are united (a good thing) even though they know the government is corrupt and does not support the workers.

I know that many here and myself included, don’t appreciate his anti-worker example of the “Workers of the World Unite” being used as the lie of a corrupt regime…

That was my first thought, why the fuck did he have to dismiss and disparage workers from the very start of his speech? Then I remembered, he is a banker, he serves the bankers, and bankers have no use for workers except to bleed them dry.

It is encouraging that he recognizes SOME of the failures of the current system, but he ignored the rise of fascism world-wide, and still thinks everything will be fine if we just have more militarism and capitalism.

It wasn't an example of a corrupt regime, though, but of a failed one. The soviet union failed to live up to the promise of workers uniting for collective ownership, and it was failing as a dictatorship. The sign in the window here is not pretending a corrupt regime wasn't corrupt, but that a crumbling regime wasn't crumbling.

The current world order has been crumbling for some time. No one on the world has been willing to say so. He turned around and said "let it".

Carney already told Trump to pound sand on the “Board of Peace”.