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TIL: The United States is Now Officially in First Phase of Civil War
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That's a hot take
Yeah, that's a super loose definition of war. This is one of those things that you wouldn't even know until after the fact anyway. Way too many people are eager for a civil war while very obviously not understanding what all that entails.
You think capturing legal people from their homes shattering windows and dragging them from.cars is only 'loose definition " of war?
By this standard the US civil war began no later than 1787, when the 3/5th and grand compromises.were necessary to get both factions to agree to the new constitution.
There's a reason why we don't call the "three score and thirteen" years between the conference in Philadelphia and the attack on fort Sumter a "war".
Not long now before ‘Donald the Cunt’ declares midterm elections cannot be held due to the civil war.
He said there will be no further elections. There are no elections during martial law. Besides, martial law wastly expands his powers.
Wouldn't be surpriced if that was the plan all along.
Considering he has been openly saying he will do that since he was elected, yeah there’s a fair chance that that was his plan all along. I hate it here.
Cue republican shocked Pikachu faces as they continue to inch away from him while pretending they weren't on board with this shit the entire time
As an heir to the Wastly family name, fuck you.
The Department of Justice refused to investigate the officer, and the FBI barred Minnesota officials from accessing evidence,
Uh, WHY?
Because they are sending a message.
Because they picked a side; and it isn't ours.
Taking liberties with the definition of war but OK
Now some other nation can start to threaten Trump with an invasion if he doesn't protect his citizens.
Y'all want to Make Britain Great Again LOL
But it's failing.
It's China who profits the most.
I think we have been at the first phase for a while now. Probably since the murder of George Floyd.
Maybe, maybe that would be true after 10-15 massacres and the third cancelled election... Maybe.
and the third cancelled election
Does that mean you think the 1860's thing didn't count as a war either? Because AFAIK, elections were never cancelled.
It only means that I think americans have become so docile, they will do anything but act.
Bro, fucking what??? Have you not seen the mass protests, mass strikes, walkouts, mutual aid networks popping up, increasing pressure on elected officials, mass counter-surveillance, etc??? TF you mean Americans "won't" act when it's already fucking happening? Or are you one of those edgelords that thinks open armed rebellion is the only real form of action? You legitimately might be online way too much. Go outside, spend some time in the real world.
Yeah, I've seen signs, walking and commenting...
Works every time against fascism.
Look, I acknowledge and appreciate the very real truth of armed resistance being a necessity in the event of a full fascist takeover, but we're still not there yet. The republican(not the party) institutions are still in place and the American government very much so still exists as a non-fascist democratic-republic, but yes, the fascists are encroaching. To give legitimate, organized armed resistance would dramatically accelerate a fascist takeover and then we would have no other choice but to resist via full Rebellion. That is the absolute last option for reasons even beyond the pure and absolute devastation of war, which should be reason enough. To have a fighting chance as a Rebellion, you need the networks built up, which is what is happening now through these protests and mutual aid networks. You need public opinion on your side, this is being built up by the outrage response to brutalization of peaceful demonstrators. With strong enough public opinion, the military is on your side, being made up of the public. More demonstrations = more demonstrators = stronger networks built for resistance movements. This all takes time. So even if we're playing by doomer rules as if the American government is already a lost cause, the current action by the people is necessary.
However, in the world of politics in the struggle to prevent a fascist state, all these movements have the primary purpose of enacting social change within the confines of the current system. Overthrowing the current system would necessitate mass armed conflict with a very uncertain outcome. An outcome that will very certainly have a worse short-term outcome due to the conflict and instability, and could easily have a worse long-term outcome if resistance movements prove to have weak cohesion. Generating enough political capital in the movements forming and acting today have proven many times in the country's history to enact good and lasting change without armed Rebellion being necessary.
As much as fascist scum absolutely deserve being literally curb-stomped upon their appearance, these political movements don't exist in a vacuum and we have to navigate the egotistical and fleeting opinion of the general public in order to effectively drive out fascism. We can cry out all we like about the public acting too soft toward fascists, but that, unfortunately, plays right into their hands.
If only you were American, you could magically take care of the vast number of challenges with whatever violence you think should be happening.
Desperate Don would probably still want to use the nukes in the scenario
this post was submitted on 23 Jan 2026
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