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Massive union overseeing Border Patrol demands ouster of Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller (www.rawstory.com)
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[-] ravenaspiring@sh.itjust.works 57 points 2 months ago

“Our demand is clear: Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who was responsible for carrying out the policy that led to Alex’s needless killing, and Deputy White House Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, the architect of that policy, must resign immediately. If they refuse, President Trump must dismiss them," AFGE National President Everett Kelley said in a statement.

“Public reporting has established that Mr. Miller is the driving force behind the administration’s harsh immigration agenda," he continued. "He personally directed its implementation and used high-pressure tactics to force compliance across the federal government. These were not abstract policy choices. They were imposed from the top and enforced without regard for the consequences."

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

I LOVE that they are calling out Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller so forcefully. It's long past time to move past blaming the ICE Apes they keep putting on TV, and get to the real source of the problem.

PeeWee Himmler is America's biggest MAGA problem. He is Trump's Wormtongue, whispering poison into Trump's ear all day. Nobody knows how to manipulate Trump better than PeeWee, and he's got him twisted around his little finger. Get rid of PeeWee, and Trump will be mostly rudderless, just focusing on his own corruption, instead of policy.

And corruption is something we can prosecute him for.

[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's something (words -- maybe not 'something' in these times). But will the union demand their members to strike? I mean, that's the most (only) meaningful action a Union can do; it's sort of what they're for, right? Right?

[-] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

It's a felony for federal workers to strike. Kinda makes you wonder why federal employees even have unions, but that's the capitalist hellscape we live in...

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

Felony, in a lawless land? Break your chains.

[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

I am outside the US so I didn't know this. So... Unions, whose biggest and perhaps only effective weapon against exploitation, the strike, cannot, by law, call for a strike. And it's a federal offense for federal workers to do so?

Wow. Just Wow. Why even have a union?

[-] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I know people involved in some of these unions. They still fight for federal workers and are successful at times in assisting them with so many other things. They negotiate contracts (like collective bargaining agreements) and seek more fair workplace practices, they represent workers in disputes, they scrutinize HR and administrative practices, and they bring lawsuits in federal courts.

Yes, they don't have the teeth of large strikes, but it's still helping them in the sense of banding together and pooling resources. Of course, this fucking piece of shit administration has just unilaterally taken away a lot of things and exposed a lot of the flaws in the system. From what I know, morale is in the shitter for most normal, everyday, civilian federal workers who simply wanted to provide a good public service and pay their bills.

Note that I think it being illegal to strike is fundamentally un-constitutional and un-American. But hey, not much of the U.S. is how we feel it should be.

[-] Asmodeus_Krang@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago

The only purpose of police unions is to come out in solidarity when one of their own fucks up. Like if a teacher's union rallied around the teacher every time they were accused of inappropriate contact with a student. The union would back the teacher and besmirch the student. That's how law enforcement unions work in the U.S.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

The last time federal workers went on strike, Reagan fired every air traffic controller. We're still trying to recover from THAT, 40 years on.

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

I don't know if this ever happened and I only have experience as a government contractor. I think ICE and CBP might have different rules, but...

The "loophole" to strike is if and only if the union can't reach an agreement on terms to extend their CBA then there is no legal requirement to not strike. Meaning if the negotiations go sideways and the other side isn't negotiating in good faith as far as raises, healthcare, PTO, etc then the union members can vote to not accept the CBA. if the CBA ends so does the obligation to not strike.

[-] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They can still do a work slowdown. Have just enough folk call in sick. Also this gives voice to what could become a national general strike. They're also directly calling out Steven Miller so hopefully that embarrasses the administration enough to oust him from his military base accommodations.

[-] Lumun@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

Massive American unions usually have anti-strike clauses (in this case it's actually a law), so they will never be able to go that far. Outside organizations would need to organize wildcat strikes of those workers instead. I would say a good strong union even with a clause could still prep their members to respond to a strike call though, they just can't legally do it themselves

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 15 points 2 months ago

An early start on the Good German myth then.

[-] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago

A prerequisite for being a good German is to do nothing to resist, this is at least something.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Part of the myth is the “clean Wehrmacht” myth, in which it was falsely claimed that the regular military weren’t involved in war crimes and crimes against humanity, they were just soldiers following orders, and that they would have been shot if they hadn’t participated. Complete bullshit of course, but the Western Allies didn’t want to have to occupy Germany indefinitely and they needed a force to take over.

This isn’t resistance, this is just laying out groundwork for when the trials happen.

[-] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah, except the clean Wehrmacht myth was also primarily about pardoning generals and officers, not protecting rank and file soldiers.

[-] kingofras@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[-] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

Not knowing the name of a single concept is not really about education funding.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

Would you rather they said nothing?

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

If it gets Miller out… maybe we let this one play out.

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago

Miller getting removed is a wet dream

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 2 months ago

Or else what?

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 2 months ago

Its The American Federation of Government Employees. Title makes it sound like it's a union representing Border Patrol agents. It's not. It's representing all federal employees which obviously are not happy with the current administration because of massive layoffs and the shutdown.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

I love that they are specifically calling out Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller. He's behind MOST of the worst stuff in MAGA, especially all the racist and immigration stuff. The guy really has a bug up his ass about non-white people.

Most of America has no idea who he is, but to know him is to be reviled by him. He is easily one of the most repellent people on the planet, and not surprisingly, so is his wife. He's so awful, that the word was that when he entered the first MAGA administration, he was still a virgin in his 30s, because women wouldn't go near him. He met his wife in the White House. Apparently she comes from a family that routinely uses the N-word at the dinner table. I'm sure he felt right at home, like he'd found his people.

The Dems should make him one of the main faces of the Midterm campaign, because he is easy to hate, and people will eagerly vote against him. Blame him for ALL this immigration stuff because he is responsible. The orders to start killing American protesters, and send a message, almost certainly started with him.

We can't vote him out, but we can make him such a liability that MAGA will eject him themselves. Or maybe not. Maybe they'll double down, and let him get worse, and we can enjoy his eventual execution with even more satisfaction.

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