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[-] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

It’s no surprise that federal public universities have received the highest marks; they are universally recognized as the best. But the evaluation of medical programs has also revealed that tuition fees can be inversely proportional to the quality of the education being offered. Medicine schools that scored the lowest (1 or 2 on a scale of 1-5) charge each student between $1,100 and $2,600 a month, according to a detailed analysis by Veja magazine. This is veritable fortune in a country where the minimum wage is $313 a month.

How can you charge so much compared to their minimum wage and still be so bad?

[-] agingelderly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago
[-] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Ah, the ~~American~~ Capitalist approach

Ftfy

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I've found in higher education that many programs that act as diploma mills charge a lot because they can. They know the students are just looking for the degree and that the school is probably their only choice.

[-] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

fun fact the minimum wage is yearly readjusted and based on the cost of common basic items

how is it so bad? I have no fucking clue, we have chronic critical shortage of medics since as far as I can remember

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

kinda like carribean ones, and likely wont be eligble for praticing medicine in the states, because they have much more stringent requirements, which tend to ignore "diploma-mill like medical schools". if you're a foreign trained"MD that is not from the UK, aus, EU , canada" you will have a extremely hard time to pratice in the states or in any of those countries.

[-] atomicorange@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Students that are paying a fortune can expect and demand high grades for little work, they’re paying extra for the “deluxe” degree where all the hard stuff is done for them. It’s really common with for-profit universities.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Exactly. That's why the commodification of education is a travesty that can't be overstated...

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

Trust fund babies. Just like here.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

not at all. this is how much private education costs in brazil. most students go in debt to do it, not much unlike usians.

there are some exceptions but most trust fund babies are actually in the much superior public university, because they had the better education to pass the hard exams in the first place.

luckily the system has balances to let in a lot of poorer students easier. not nearly enough space for everyone, though.

[-] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

this, 100% correct, I am a brazillian

I have somehow managed to get in a prestigeous a public university in one of the best campi they have, (though unfortanely in a course that I hate and didnt want to get) and this is genuinely as someone that comes from a self subsistance farmer family the first time I have seen macbooks and ipads in my life (they are seen as status symbols here)

there are state mandated quotas of slots designated exclusively to students that have studied in public highschools and for black or mixed students, inclusion programs for low income students that provide up to half a minimum wage, housing and free food

it is common to say that public universities here are for the rich because, for the most part they are, even with all the support poorer students get, they are still a minority, you will see expensive cars roaming arround in the campus being driven by people who clearly got the drivers license yesterday and dont know what fuck theybare doing, and rich kids outright paying to get help cheating in tests

I mean... American minimum wage comes out to $1256 monthly (assuming full-time, and that's pre-tax). Community college comes in pretty cheap at $450 a month on average, but four year universities come up to $4,800 on average (assuming full-time enrollment for both). The cheapest MD programs I can find are still close to twice the minimum wage, and that's assuming you get in-state tuition, since out of state is usually 2-3x more.

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Try $290 monthly minimum wage. This is Brazil not America in the article. Unless you're saying It's better ratio of wage to tuition than America, which is not hard

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

graduate

lack basic knowledge

Why are they graduating in the first place? Who is passing these students? Stop passing students who can't show they learned anything, maybe? Novel idea, I know.

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It's mostly private institutions passing people because they just care about the money and nothing else.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 1 week ago

Those institutions need to lose their accreditation then.

[-] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Source? The literal subtitle of the article says it's private and public institutions.

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Try reading beyond the subtitle

[-] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Middle of the article:

The medicine schools with the worst scores are mostly municipally owned (created and managed by city councils) or ...

Sooo...

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Cherry picking huh? Municipal are the smallest and least funded public universities here, the major institutions are all state and federal level, to be honest I didn't even know there were municipal ones. Reminder that I said 'mostly' not ONLY private institutions.

"It’s no surprise that federal public universities have received the highest marks; they are universally recognized as the best. But the evaluation of medical programs has also revealed that tuition fees can be inversely proportional to the quality of the education being offered. Medicine schools that scored the lowest (1 or 2 on a scale of 1-5) charge each student between $1,100 and $2,600 a month, according to a detailed analysis by Veja magazine. This is veritable fortune in a country where the minimum wage is $313 a month."

[-] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Not cherry picking, just wasn't aware that municipalities were smaller schools. Our school system here works different. Now I know.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Corruuuuuption!

Americans, pay attention, because this is where you're headed in speed run fashion

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago

I believe we USians invented the model.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 1 week ago

speed run fashion

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

Always take these stories with a grain of salt. Especially with a salacious headline such as "organization shocked"

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

Tax your rich, investigate corruption, close the loopholes.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

Tax your rich, investigate corruption, close the loopholes.

[-] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago

Something I think about after seeing such titles is the fact that education system curriculums have gotten insane around the world. Kids study 3 times more than what I had to study back then. Nearly all are failing. We are really pushing the human limits here.

[-] KatakiY@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah that's what I've been saving for at least a decade. Every company I worked for has feature creep in what you are expected to be an expert in and at a certain point you don't actually know anything you're just vaguely aware of a lot of different things.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

you're just vaguely aware of a lot of different things.

Same

[-] Mellow12@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you for the hot topic, One day old account.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But are their parents rich?

[-] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

depends,

in Brazil, public universities are mostly attended by the rich for free

paid ones are usually also mostly attenddd by the rich though on average less rich

the reason? even though there extremely generous inclusion programs and quotas for poor and students that studied in public education system their whole lives the public universities are very competitive and hard to get into and since the basic public school system is utter garbage any student from private schools is at a huge advantage

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