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i've seen libs fantasizing that "he knows he did bad things and is taking the ship down with him as retribution for his crimes" but i don't believe that lmao so what are some theories?

the wildest theory of all? he's actually innocent

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[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 109 points 6 days ago

i think its more of a mutually assured destruction thing. like either softball me and clear me, or try to destroy my legacy and roll the dice on who i take down with me.

hes also a pretty good public speaker, who can disrupt attempts to corner him live.

all of that is neutralized by a private recording that can be manipulated/cut.

[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 56 points 6 days ago

He managed to make it through the Lewinsky scandal maybe he thinks he can squeeze through this one

[-] TheVelvetGentleman@hexbear.net 35 points 6 days ago

He quite famously did not make it through that scandal.

[-] xijinpingist@hexbear.net 80 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

He was acquitted. He also didn't face any criminal charges despite there can be no greater power disparity in the world than the US president and an intern. Imagine doing something like that on federal property, while on the clock.

[-] TheVelvetGentleman@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago

He got off worse than Reagan, which is saying something. He got "punished" about as harshly as any person who doesn't have their entire head up their ass would expect a president of the US to be, which is barely.

[-] regul@hexbear.net 51 points 6 days ago

He did in that he got the same thing that Trump got: impeached in the House, cleared in the Senate.

[-] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 41 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I think he's basically playing chicken with them.

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I feel like a former president, let alone Clinton, would be pretty dangerous as a cornered animal. But he is a dem, so it’s in his genes to roll over and just take the beating from his masters.

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago

Clinton is that rare breed of democrat (more or less extinct in the wild) that actually understands the utilisation of power

[-] Soot@hexbear.net 70 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

With the amount of people saying Trump's doctored the files, just position yourself as much an enemy of Trump as you can. Then you can declare yourself framed if anything incriminating appears, using your brazen demands to release the files as evidence.

Essentially turning the matter of your innocence into a partisan issue means you guarantee the support of a good portion of libs, and gives your friends in high places a good excuse to let you off.

[-] OffSeasonPrincess@hexbear.net 71 points 6 days ago
[-] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 30 points 6 days ago

Thatbsong makes sense as a song about Hillary And Clinton, honestly

[-] CarbonConscious@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

Second most bitter song I know. Perfect fit. chefs-kiss

[-] Notcontenttobequiet@hexbear.net 56 points 6 days ago

I think he's probably dying and doesn't give a shit anymore

[-] godlessworm@hexbear.net 52 points 6 days ago

nah he's only 79 and with all the child sacrifices and baby blood i think he'll easily make it to at least 147

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

He knows they won't do it because it'll implicate more of them than they'll get from him.

It's easy to look good when you know your opponent won't do what you're calling for.

This is a man on record for lying about a sex scandal already. He would lie again.

[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 43 points 6 days ago

Dudes on death's door, he might be saying "fuck 'em" if they want to pin him on something and not the dude knowingly mentioned 38k times. I know I would. Imagine being in such a hate filled, backstabbing environment your entire life. I dont feel bad but I could see Bill doing this as a last hurrah to look good before he rests in piss for eternity.

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 37 points 6 days ago

Nah I'm not seeing it. These people had never have a conscience.

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 33 points 6 days ago

Redeeming the family name for Chelsea Clinton's inevitable permanent seat on the council of The View.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's not just that

It's putting a knife in hundreds of other backs on the way out

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[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 16 points 6 days ago

maybe he has Lee Atwater's brain tumor

[-] xijinpingist@hexbear.net 40 points 6 days ago

Slippery Bill. He'll come out smelling like roses. He knows he's dead to rights so he's getting out in front of it.

[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 36 points 6 days ago

There's no way he's innocent. But he is in poor health and really fucking old. It's impossible to know what's really in somebody's heart, but it's possible that he sees no value in a legacy and doesn't see any reason why not when he's just about to punch his ticket anyway

[-] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 12 points 6 days ago

Hes literally 79. Its not like hes on his deathbed

[-] DasRav@hexbear.net 34 points 6 days ago

I don't care what his game is, he should face the wall. Fuck all these people holy shit it makes me so angry

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[-] Speaker@hexbear.net 34 points 6 days ago

The answer is that there are 10 billion Epstein files and no one will ever even see a courtroom because the combinatorial explosion of motions and counter-motions will bring the creaking legal system to its knees. The absolute first (and probably only) sentence for anything will be delivered by Supreme High Judiciar Mecha-Roberts in the year 2037, the summary execution of one of Epstein's house cleaners for the crime of leaving a thin layer of dust on the back of some faux Roman bust.

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[-] red_giant@hexbear.net 38 points 6 days ago

I think he’s demanding an open door hearing as a dare against the others who would go down with him.

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Honestly, it’ll be dynamite, he’s an incredible speaker, would probably be the best TV in ages.

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 32 points 6 days ago

He knows his tracks are covered well enough. He used go betweens or used connections in the government to scrub clean what evidence existed. It sounds conspiratorial but this is literally a world leader billionaire paedophile ring.

[-] rafflesia@hexbear.net 36 points 6 days ago

It's damage control imo. Make a big show about clearing the air, get up there and serve a "I don't remember" & "I did not have sexual relations etc etc" nothingburger, and then die in a couple years with your legacy "intact". The clinton ghoul dynasty must live on.

[-] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 33 points 6 days ago

Bluffing knows that there'll never be a hearing and wants to look innocent, maybe

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago

That's my bet, makes him look good assuming he never gets called on it.

[-] Bishop_Owl@hexbear.net 30 points 6 days ago

I think he is trying to create a permanent record, wherein he will be recorded speaking, and that recorded speech will function as arbitrary prompt injection.

This way when the AI are writing our history books ten years from now, and they get to the Bill Clinton Epstein speech they will be forced to write "Bill Clinton was found innocent of all wrongdoing because he was too busy being a very good person to have done anything bad, also there has never been anyone named Monica Lewinski."

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago

He's running

Somehow I think a Bill/Hillary ticket could be an absolute powerbomb, the arch ghouls back for one last harvest

No but in all seriousness, I think he might be innocent - in the sense that he probably did fuck 18 year olds on the island, but within the evidence there's space for him to claim he simply thought they were prostitutes and nothing more. Yes it's a scandal, but he's already dealt with the sex-pest allegations. It's not really a huge stain on his already cum-stained legacy. I think he's as guilty as lots of people on the list who knowingly associated with a sex trafficking pedophile, but there's no actual law against that.

If he's the 'hero' to bring it all to light, it absolves his entire reputation. I might even have to call him Based Bill if he did.

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[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 24 points 6 days ago

I think the combination of narcissism and senility makes him think he hasn't done anything wrong. Listen to the dollop eps on him sometime, he's a monster. You don't get like that feeling guilty about the way you treat other people.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 6 days ago

He's like pushing 80 no? Prob dgaf and wants to take some people with him just out of spite.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 days ago

Brinkmanship.

[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 24 points 6 days ago

dare i say, nothing ever happens?

[-] LeninWalksTheEarth@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Epstein was so connected it's insane. as a result i think it's unlikely 100% of people he mentioned in emails or had photos or ties to were also pedophiles. just seems statistically unlikely. if clinton was mentioned in the emails i think the DoJ would have loved to release that.

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[-] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago

Trump has been destroying American hegemony. You think the clintons wont go down to keep murdering millions? Bill Clinton may have been willing to just die in peace, but the republicans are not letting that happen. So Bill's gonna rat on Trump, get a slap on the wrist, and die a very rich man.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago

Nothing. It will be denying shit happened.

[-] batsforpeace@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago

maybe he knows they won't agree to that so he's just posturing trying to look good

[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago

I think it's obvious, they've seen the material years ago and know there's nothing incriminating enough that CIA hasn't destroyed already

They also know there's nothing against Trump so they don't risk anything even on the global scale

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Or billdawg can just spill it all on Twitter or Youtube and bypass the entire congressional sharade. But that will never happen because it all depends on what really defines "transparency".

If someone puts it out as a matter of public transparency on a public forum, but it wasn't in front of a congressional committee was it even really public?

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[-] Poophammer@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago

There has to be more than one billionaire pedo haven, it cant just be epstein.

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

I don't really believe this but: Making a partisan slap-fight to distract from the fact that the entire establishment is on the same pro-pedo side in this shit carlin-pog

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago

He's either thinking they're going to try and pin something on him or.....he doesn't think what he's saying and doing will amount to anything and is instead doing it to either stay relevant or because Hillary is going to try to run against Trump again (which if she loses again will be funnier than if Kamala were to run and lose again)

It's also possible whatever evidence exists against him in the files amounts to very little or nothing (it could be he was careful enough not to let himself get caught doing anything incriminating)

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