I was a big Bill Cosby fan, back int he 60s. I had several of his albums, and I'd take them to friends' houses to listen to them.

I started hearing crazy stuff in the 90s, and then it all turned out to be true. I was heartbroken.

Steve Jobs. There was some magic to him, but also an extremely dark side. I had a corporate bio from the early 90s that made him and Woz seem like superhero partners, when in reality he shorted Wozniak and Esposito and only really looked out for himself. He seemed like a countercultural LSD dropping hippie, and he was some of that, but when it came time to get rich and get his, he went down that path too. Shitty father, terrible boss. None of the things I would say my own life aspires to now.

Hulk Hogan. Also, not really a hero, but his work had a log of influence on me- Orson Scott Card. The reasons I liked it so much are kind of cringe looking back as an adult anyway though.

Keanu Reeves, I used to really like the guy when the matrix trilogy came out but then he said and did all these super nice things like saying "I don't want to be part of a world where kindness is perceived as weakness".

Nah just fucking with you. The dude is solid!

Tim Sweeny

Back when Epic was Epic Megagames I played a shitton of their shareware catalogue - ZZT, Jazz Jackrabbit, Epic Pinball, Jill of the Jungle. As a teen I loved Unreal and Unreal Tournament. After Tim sold Epic to Tencent and became a vocal piece of shit I actively avoid all Epic software.

Shaq

Bill Cosby, fersure..

but there's a musician called Paris, and I don't know if he became horrible,

but he definitely seemed to have lost it, & gone over to the dark-side, at 1 point..

Black musician, switched from calling out shit to just pushing more darkness.

NOT like Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, or the main guy from Public Enemy Number One, who ( that I know-of ) held-to positive/proactivity..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_(rapper)

Actually, I think all ideologues go in the bin, now, in my view..

IF anyone pushes ideology instead of objectivity/correct-reasoning/evolving-worldview-to-match-evidence/spirituality, THEN .. they're just pushing their-own ideology's totalitarianism, & not outgrowing ideology-the-category.

After the dictatorship-tippingpoint gets crossed by Trump, & the mass butchery of Civil War Part2 begins, then that'll make more sense.

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My mother. Turns out she's a narcissistic, fascist Trump-loving Norwegian, who's only been to the USA twice. Last time we spoke, she defended the killing of Good and Pretti, stating that innocent lives can be taken in order to get the Somali fraud.

I don't talk to her anymore.

Nobody mentioned God?

I was raised Christian. Never deeply religious, but had all the bible study stuff, religious school, etc. Religion was comforting.

Then I got older and started seeing the fanboys for who they were. Hypocrites of the highest order. Assholes that armored themselves with being “Christians”. Trying to game the system or to buy their way into heaven, making it transactional. Heaven also seems like a shitty place; an existence locked into worshipping a deity while in a drugged out euphoria and never being able to learn, grow, and experience things again. A “Matrix”-like place. A God that is psychotic, manipulative, and a classic narcissistic abuser. Jesus would probably be a cool guy, but nobody actually gives a fuck about him. A book full of contradictions and other awful things that are constantly rationalized and massaged to mean whatever the needs of the individual might be. Just generally how awful any religion is, how it’s used to control people, do shitty things, and consolidate power and money.

Yeah, if you’re formerly religious, you get it. I’m an scientific atheist now.

Ironically, thanks to modern “christians”, I’ve found myself citing scripture to shitty people who claim to be religious to point out their hypocrisy, idolatry or whatever, and occasionally listening to religious people who point out how awful and un-christian these people are.

Bill Nye

That Bill Cosby guy...

would not say "hero", but I did like a lot of Michael Jackson's music when I was younger.

let's not pretend he didn't do anything just because he could settle/pay off everything ...