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[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

The alternatives don't have to be perfect. Reducing the dominance of any single country is a good thing.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

thrirha klha ~~mmkdn~~ mmkn

i'm currently learning arabic. did i get your name right?

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, except for the last word, there's no 'd'

right, i misread it as ممكدن

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[-] atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago

I just wish that the narrative would focus more on the anti-competitive behavior of these firms to make sure we don’t fall into the same monopolistic trap in Europe. We need variety, we need competition. Focus on standards, low switching costs, and allow reverse engineering.

[-] PeroBasta@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Mentally ready. Actually not ready at all.

[-] maplesaga@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Given they broke their own procurement laws to choose US tech companies for their cloud infrastructure its definitely silly.

[-] macattack@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

FYI, Proton CEO also caught flak for praising Trump picks, so they are playing both sides of the field FYI

[-] peacefulpixel@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

in that article (which i had to use the Bypass Paywalls Clean extension to comfortably read) Proton states "we do not comply with US subpoenas from either party." which of course is because they comply fully with Swiss subpoenas LOL

[-] Yliaster@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 day ago
[-] ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

When it's the government asking.

[-] darkmogool@feddit.org 20 points 2 days ago

don't talk about it… do it!

[-] upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think its great that Europe is looking to rely less on US tech but nothing about whats going on with Europe (especially within the EU) makes me think privacy is a focus.

[-] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago

Companies that have had their whole data on Google/MS servers for 20 years certainly don't care for privacy the way you and I do. But they are certainly realizing that US providers are not the way to go. Baby steps I guess.

[-] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

That reminds me of a quote I heard once. Probably from Cory Doctorow but I cannot remember now.

"Everyone wants you to have privacy... just not from them."

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah? Because Chat Control is still a thing. And age verification as well, but the EU won't outsource that to 3rd parties (we have EIDAS and the EU wallet for that).

[-] Darkmoon_AU@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[-] upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

It hasn't stopped countries like France, and Italy (not a complete list just examples) from being some of the least privacy friendly western governments.

GDPR is nice and all, but people have been fighting chat control and all its hydra heads for years now, so no.

But I'm an American so what do I know?

[-] IratePirate@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

But I’m an American so what do I know?

You know much more about the world around you than the orange turd that claims to be the leader of the free world. Don't sell yourself short, mate! It'll take people like you to rebuild once this is over.

[-] ekky@sopuli.xyz 61 points 3 days ago

Well, get to it then! Ain't got all year.

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago

It will never happen as long as slugs like van der Leyen or Merz are running the show. These people are completely incompetent.

[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No.

Merz and von der Leyen are extremely competent, they just don't pursue the goals they say they do. They may even belief that they are pursuing other goals than they really do.

They believe in trickle down economics despite all evidence pointing to it making everything worse. In their pursuit of economic growth, they do the exact thing that in their model should boost, but in reality stifles growth. They increase the wealth redistribution from the poor and middle class to the rich.

And they are so damn good at it. That's the reason money has put them in their current positions.

They are extremely competent in doing the wrong thing.

[-] IratePirate@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

They believe in trickle down economics despite all evidence pointing to it making everything worse.

It is high time we switch to Pinata economics.

[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago
[-] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 1 points 1 day ago

Oh yes. Because Merz builds data centers, and Der Leyen is known for making IT decisions at EU companies. They also happen to be the queens of private investors.

[-] biofaust@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

France is. The EU is working on trying to get EU-made solutions in use. Switzerland is not in the EU and neither is the UK.

Now that we established this, we can have a productive conversation.

[-] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think many companies are basically stuck with Microsoft (Excel, Word, Teams, Sharepoint, Onedrive etc). Switching to something else is going to be a pretty serious project. It's going to be expensive and time consuming.

Totally worth doing IMO, but convincing the CEO is another matter. I guess we need a cautionary tale before the executives decide to reserve a few million euros for rebuilding a significant part of the IT infrastructure.

[-] Beherit@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just have companies get tax reductions if they use EU only software. Voila, it’s done within months - to the shock of every it- admin out there.

[-] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 3 points 2 days ago

Yep. Money steers the decision making process. Politics determines how money works, and companies just go with the flow.

[-] IratePirate@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think many companies are basically stuck with Microsoft (Excel, Word, Teams, Sharepoint, Onedrive etc).

Tbh, office and collaboration tools are the least of our worries; there are plenty of good alternatives which, with some financial support, can be adapted to suit companies' needs in very little time. What should worry us more are the tons of critical applications tailored to a very specific area of administration and business. The software that runs the power plants and hospitals. The software that manages logistics and industrialised production. The software that runs our accounting and HR. That's the Windows lock-in that we're not going to shake off over night.

[-] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 2 points 1 day ago

Same with industrial automation, power grid, production management, etc. Most people don’t even realise how much critical software is Windows-only.

[-] morto@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago

If they put all the effort they use to change things in favor of ai to migrate to software alternatives, it would be a perfectly viable project

[-] fierysparrow89@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Convincing CEOs is not our job. In general they have neither the obligation nor the habbit to take anything else other than their KPIs into consideration. Convincing elected polititians to legistlate is our job.

Some know already, some will bow to reason, many will do whatever keeps them elected. People will need to re-learn to play the long game.

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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 20 points 3 days ago

It'll help when governments stop accepting or just blocking links to onedrive and sharepoint, and file formats that are not open. Then companies are forced into using alternatives instead of just blindly using microsoft, or don't work for any government project again.

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[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 days ago

oh god.... we have built everything on microsoft stuff and the higher ups insist that anything that legally can be hosted on the cloud be migrated to azure. This will cause us (the actual workers) untold levels of pain if it were mandated by the eu.

I still wish it does become mandatory though

[-] nodiratime@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Meanwhile, my employer decided to switch from a self made Linux platform (with it's pitfalls due to the usual "it's free, why should we put so much money into maintenance" reasoning) to Microslop. I and multiple other people warned them, again and again.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago
[-] demeritum@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Doubt it, honestly. The NSA has a Consolidated Intelligence Center in Wiesbaden as well as Darmstadt’s Dagger Complex just a stones throw away from Frankfurt the center of EU finance and logistical hub. Any alternative will be compromised with these bases remain.

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