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next time I hear "there is just too many (brown) people" i swear

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[-] testfactor@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, kinda like that time Brian Thompson got shot, and the next day United Healthcare ceased to exist.

Not saying that the general point of corporations doing more harm than people is wrong. Just that if you think that the corporation is just one person, I've got a bridge to sell you.

[-] AuroraZzz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

United Healthcare's stock is down 60% since the incident. United Healthcares board and new CEOs lowered the rejection rate of patients out of fear as well. Say what you want about the morality of what was done. The efficacy speaks for itself

[-] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

The efficacy lasted for all of a month before returning to where it had been before.

[-] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So, UHC stock was up around 600, dropped to a bit over 200, and is lately around 300. So like ¾ of the drop is still there in linear terms, or something like ⅔ in logarithmic terms.

[-] voidsignal@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

if that continues to happen, trust me, eventually none of these fuckers will be left in line.

Kemp is alive and governing Georgia as far as I know but I'm happy to be corrected if that's wrong. You may be thinking of Brian Thompson who involuntarily resigned his position as the CEO of UnitedHealthcare on a NYC sidewalk.

[-] testfactor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Ah damn, you right. Should have Googled it. Too many Brian's in the news, lol. Got the wires crossed.

Editing to fix.

You did have my hopes up for a moment.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yup. After 9/11 for a while it seemed every week or two the news would report that "The leader of Al Qaeda" had just been killed or captured. Not a false statement, yet it happened again the next week.

[-] meejle@piefed.world 1 points 1 week ago

Maybe we should assign these fuckers playing cards like Bush did 👀

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

... So kill the entire board.

That'd probably make a more uh, substantial material impact on their bottom line.

Oh, they keep doing evil shit with a new board?

... repeat.

Or, I guess you can just either ... well, either try to run away and hide, pray to the normalcy bias gods that one of these days the legal systems they own will do something against them, or just resign yourself to a kind of smug, self defeating moral solace in being doomed, but being right while being doomed.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Which one of those things are you doing?

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

There is also a societal dependance on some of the status quo. The bigger issue is how hard they actively resist the change. A lot of places still rely on trucking at a minimum to fill the groccery store with food wrapped in plastic, most of which is powered or made by fossil fuels. We need to electrify and diversifying but they cling to oil and have way too much power in governmental decisions to prevent or reverse any reduction in dependance for their products.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online -1 points 1 week ago

The way in which Luigi was arrested is part of their safety checks. A way to motivate working class to turn people in, without paying them. I generally thought reward money worked.

I learned it did not work from a podcast that no longer exists. Michael Bazzel’s OSINT podcast talked about it within the context of people who used OSINT to find people on wanted lists and how reward money collection actually works. (Podcast doesn’t exist any more, the copies of the casts went away with the podcast.). Sadly, there’s no replacement for this type of news and info condensed down into one place. It’s also a niche area of information, not followed by many.

Those McDonald's workers were not paid for turning Luigi in. But they thought they would be.

Even so, look at the bigger picture. How many Luigi’s have there been since 1981?

Most people avoid confrontation, spending most of their days sitting in a chair or lying down, and thinking/hoping/wishing a white knight is going to rescue them from their situation. It’s one reason why so many people exist in bad relationships (1 or a chain of them). Because they think that other person is going to rescue them from their sad days of avoiding confrontation while sitting in a chair or lying down, most of the day for most of their days. Hoping. But never doing. Thinking about doing. Maybe spouting off on the internet about doing. But never doing.

[-] NewDark@lemmings.world 4 points 1 week ago

Kind of. It's the system they operate under, capitalism.

Get rid of those specific people and you would have others people take their place.

However, not to say that it isn't worthwhile to also bust out the guillotines

[-] REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So you're saying me taking out some replaceable oil execs is going to make people have less demand for oil and everything that comes from it?

[-] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

But there isn't a "demand" at least not as much as years ago. We are trying to switch to renewables but the oil execs keep killing the renewable progress. The horse fucker in the white house won't let us move on. He kills wind and solar and forces the coal plants to stay open.

[-] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And that horse fucker won more votes than Kamala.

There's a whole party where resistance to green tech is one of the items of faith, hundreds of millions of people. Not just a handful of oil execs. (And yknow, the millions who still use gasoline in their cars etc.)

Edit: That's not to mention all those who like to fly places.

[-] Redvenom@retrolemmy.com 3 points 1 week ago

someone needs to mangione them

[-] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Still wrong, it's capitalism. Without them, there would be different people in the same position. Hate the game, not the player. Well, hate the game and the player but don't expect change from exchanging the player

[-] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They aren't talking about expecting change. They are talking about demanding change at gunpoint, and honestly I can't say I'm entirely opposed.

These people are completely unaffected by the law or any other form of consequences. They have removed our capability to peacefully take action, but the less-peaceful option is always there and there are legions more of us.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

What's your best, longest-lived example of a society without capitalism? Do you have any?

By capitalism, I mean

"private individuals or companies that own and control businesses and property", the simplest definition of capitalism

[-] hobovision@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Capitalism was literally invented in the last few hundred years.

[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

any socialist society will be inherently disadvantaged by the fact that the global hegemon, the USA, is hellbent on destroying them. so, given that, maybe the soviet union? china? they certainly aren't perfect, soviet union especially, but any future socialist project can (and should) learn from their successes and mistakes

[-] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

You have mercantilism and other forms of private business without capitalism. A yeoman making something and selling it isn't capitalism.

Your definition is intentionally bad because you do in fact have to separate capitalism from just the very generic concept of private enterprise.

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

Tell me you've never studied history pre-1800 without telling me you've never studied history pre-1800.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Tell me you don't have a clue without telling me you don't have a clue

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

If you want actual examples, almost all societies before 1800 we're not capitalist. Feudal society wasn't capitalist, neither was Roman society. Hunter gather society by most accounts was a form of primitive communism, and that is the vast majority of human history.

[-] artifex@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

I honestly have to wonder at what point people will collectively say "why the hell are we letting them do this" ? Not sure what happens after that, but it seems like it must have to happen at some point, right? Right?

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago

Never underestimate the power of inertia. Some people live their entire lives on it.

[-] SyrupSplashin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I would get banned on Reddit if I said what I wanted to say about this situation, would I get banned here too?

[-] sepi@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago
[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ok, but can we put AI in it somehow?

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Recycling is a con to make you feel guilty and let Chevron off the hook.

[-] r1veRRR@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago

Yes, if we just shoot the CEOs, the customers will magically stop wanting fast fashion, fast food, waste amounts of cheap meat, cheap and new electronics every year....

I don't disagree that it would have a positive effect, but I hate the overly reductive takes on systems being completely disconnected from the people. We need to realize that our (western) life style is simply not sustainable, capitalism or not. That requires serious changes for everyone, not just the "rich".

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago

So if we kill 90 oil executives we stop using oil?

[-] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

We stop the oil propaganda. Without that, we do gradually stop using oil, because the alternatives are

  • cheaper
  • easier to obtain
  • do not need dependency on Russia/middle east, which are both politically toxic
[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago

We stop the oil propaganda

How? Will these 90 people not just be replaced?

[-] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh probably. Luckily it's also pretty easy to make new fire too though.

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