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[-] VM_Abrantes@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago
[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

changing the TV's DNS servers or disconnecting it from the internet entirely.

Chiming in as an Australian budget VIDAA owner.

I spotted that this TV attempts to query 8.8.8.8, regardless of your DNS settings. I implemented a port 53 (DNS) redirect so those queries get resolved by my local server.

I also figured out which servers are serving up ads/tracking. I fired an email to Pete and got them added to his list. You're welcome. I'm guessing a pi-hole would work with it.

https://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/serverlist.php

I didn't install the latest update, and probably never will. My TV contacts the unruly ACR servers, but the later firmware probably contacts nexxen.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago

People like you help to make the internet a better place — which matters a lot to me, because one of my most desperately held beliefs is that it is possible to take the hopefulness of the early internet and combine it with the wisdom of the last few decades to produce a more robust kind of hope

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I fear the day these fucks figure out DOH or something. Not sure there's any way to suppress or intercept that, short of just blocking all external traffic to the TV.

[-] French75@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

attempts to query 8.8.8.8, regardless of your DNS settings.

Streaming box / stream app makers have been working around local DNS for a long time. Sometimes of course they're assholes that want to do shitty things and do this to make interdiction harder. But sometimes there are legitimate reasons. Ones I remember... users who don't really understand what they're doing can be overly aggressive with blocking and block things that are necessary for a particular service (causing support problems). Sometimes the ISPs DNS servers have shit performance, and using a well known commercial provider like cloudflare or google can improve performance at scale. It's not always evil.

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[-] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Relatedly, Hisense also forces updates and disables use of the TV if you do not accept the update (via a full screen non-cancelable prompt).

I learned this the hard way after Hisense broke my TV via an update that I didn't want and then refused to fix it even after 6 months of escalations and emails.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 8 points 2 months ago

They’re not alone, either. I had to downgrade my Visio just to use the features that it shipped with. I’m sure this is illegal, but no one cares unless you’re rich.

[-] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I outright told them it's illegal, since they are unilaterally altering the terms of any T&C agreements when we started using the TV and materially interfering with our ownership and use of the TV we purchased. They didn't care. I then sent it to our state attorney general and nothing happened.

[-] rainwall@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You can likely sue them in small claims court. Many states let you file for a couple hundred dollars and will give you 3x damages if you win.

The most likely outcome is they settle when the court date approaches or dont show and you win hy default.

[-] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

There was a guy in Texas who thought a big tobacco company would settle out without showing, but instead he got counter sued to the tune of millions. That man? Rusty Shackleford.

There's a good documentary about it.

[-] leoj@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Was gonna say, LG does the same thing.

So far my only TV that hasn't forced things in an absurd way has been my Sony... Guess what Sony just did? (Sold their Bravia TV line to TCL...)

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[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago

Don't let your TV be on the internet.

[-] Draegur@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago
[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

This is the cyberpunk future that the 80s kids were so hyped for.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

If anyone remembers the cyberpunk 80s TV show Max Headroom, then they know that TV was everywhere all the time in that universe. There was a scene in one episode where the police enter a suspect’s home and discover that she had an off switch on her TV. The cops react in shock to the fact, and one of them says “She’ll get twenty years for that.”

This universe also had "blipverts" which were a type of ad (advert..advertisement) that directly accessed your brain's motivation to get you to buy something. The only problem was that blipverts also had a high chance of killing the people that watched it.

This was a TV show from almost 40 years ago now and it looks like these would be the things that are coming in the next few years from now.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Sci-Fi dystopia/Cyberpunk has called a lot of things correctly.

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[-] Creegz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago
[-] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Not trying to be a Sony Bravia shill but I have two Sony Bravia XBR (X950G and X900H) TVs. Neither of these has ever attempted to show me an advertisement. They aren't the newest versions nor the most expensive. I don't include YT ads since those are YT generated.

[-] bluemellophone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Get 'em while that last:

“In a major industry shift announced in early 2026, Sony is entering a strategic partnership where TCL will take a 51% stake in its home entertainment division, including Bravia TVs, with a new joint venture expected to be fully operational by April 2027”

It’s the end of an era for the Sony Bravia.

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[-] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I have a HiSense TV and use ADB AppControl to disable/remove the telemetry or forced updates, and Projectivy Launcher to get a home screen/launcher that doesn't show ads. Both are free and work really well. I don't see trash on my homescreen anymore.

[-] Janx@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

That's great, but people who don't already own one shouldn't support this garbage company.

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[-] Atlas_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

IF YOU BUY ANY TV, DO NOT CONNECT IT TO THE INTERNET.

Televisions were never meant to be smart devices. There's no reason your screen should have software of its own. That would be like your face having a mind of its own.

Ummm,

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Okay, so strike Hisense products from the list of brand I'll ever buy from

[-] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The list is getting pretty big.

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[-] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

They can’t force me if I don’t connect it to the internet

[-] festus@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

I can imagine future TVs refusing to work without an always-on internet connection.

[-] johnyreeferseed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

I can imagine them shipping TVs with built in cellular data just for ads

[-] canthangmightstain@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago

... and exactly 2 weeks later modders will have figured out how to get their hands on the yummy free unlimited data inside it.

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[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I saw an unboxing for a TV for a Chinese market and it refused to start until the owner paired it with a Chinese phone otp for "age verification" 😉

[-] eronth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Or having prebaked fallback ads.

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[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Anyone has a list of TV manufacturers that don't suck yet?

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[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

We need openWrt for TVs :(

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Never buy Hisense, got it.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I'd like to let people know that Sceptre still makes dumb tvs and they're pretty good.

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[-] Shoogle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I had a 65" Hisense TV for just over a year, and a firmware update bricked it. It was stone dead, and Hisense wouldn't even try to repair it. So I spent a little extra money and got a Samsung instead. And once it was set up, I turned off its wifi...just in case.

Hisense can eat a bag o' dicks.

[-] ShankShill@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

My first 4K TV was a Samsung. The last update broke eARC making the Samsung home theater in a box thing I had much more inconvenient.

My 2nd (free in a raffle) Samsung 4K TV connected to my WiFi without a password when a guest in the house casted a video to it despite on setup refusing to consent to any web things due to privacy concerns. Kinda interesting and concerning.

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[-] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

We're all going to be buying computer monitors to watch TV soon.

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