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where she was? in foreign lands, invading. In the casino you shouldn't cry.
"the pioneers of a warless world are the youth who refuse military service."
Albert Einstein
you play stupid games, you get stupid prizes
Not a great decision of her to help the US in its territorial ambitions but I'm also not a fan of victim blaming aka "she had it coming".
Especially when the US economy is basically stacked in such a way that the military is promoted as the only reliable path out of poverty for many (which the state also artificially maintains).
There's a pipeline of high school to military recruitments for grads who have been convinced by their embedded ROTC recruiters that they have no other options.
There are no more summer lifeguard jobs
There are no more art museums to guard
The lab is out of white lab coats
Cause there are no more slides and microscopes
But there are still careers in combat, my son
There are still careers in combat, my sonThere are no more roles on TV shows
There are no road-cone dispensing jobs
There are no spots left for park ranger
Cause there are no bears left to save you from
But there are still careers in combat, my son
There are still careers in combat, my son
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Thanks for the source but could you extend the hyperlink text to make it easier to click? Something like this,
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So, she chose her wellbeing over others' lives?
The overwhelming majority of people do, and not even for wellbeing, purely for comfort.
Did you consider the workers at foxcon, where suicide is so prevalent they have had to make multiple changes to the building including massive fucking nets outside each window to stop jumpers, when you last bought nearly any bit of tech? Pretty much every device with cell data connectivity sources parts from them, and so do many other pieces of tech. How about all the children in rare materials mines where materials for tech are sourced?
Personally I find this argument highly hypocritical. The basic fact that you're posting here all but guarantees you have chosen comfort, not even actual wellbeing, over others lives too.
Edit: and to be clear, so do I. I just find it darkly funny when people pretend that their personal line in the sand is a difference of whether or not they do at all rather than simply a difference in degrees of separation. It's nearly impossible to exist in modern society without doing this sort of thing, so get over yourself.
I'm not killing other people. That's a very distinct line (which is usually a capital crime, unless you're hired by the army).
You are trying to blur this line. Disgusting.
The fuck I am.
You're the one that equivocated military service (and implied killing through it) to simply
[choosing] wellbeing over others' lives
Choosing wellbeing over others' lives is the thing almost all of us do almost fucking constantly, and explicitly what I was talking about.
Military service and murdering people is not.
Edit: Draw your line in the sand wherever you want, murder is a perfectly valid line to have and one I agree with.
Just don't pretend that you don't choose wellbeing over others' lives too. If your issue is with military service and murder, stick with that.
What about perpetrator blaming?
Nah, she joined the military knowing exactly what we do with it. Not gonna shed a tear for someone propping up American imperialism and terrorism.
18 year olds are surprisingly easy to fool, let alone 18 year olds who have been getting groomed by recruiters since age 14.
You are not immune to propaganda and pretending you are does not make you an intellectual, it makes you unable to see when you fall for it.
Except military recruiters lying their ass off is a universally known trope. This is a classic wolves ate my face, they went into the military for the benefits, fuck everyone else. And now it turns out the military cared for them about as much as it cares for the people she oppressed for them.
The government setting it up so the path of least resistance is becoming a pedo doesn't make becoming a pedo ok
I wish all deceased United States and Israeli combatants in the invasion of Iran a very RIP bozo.
Americans are very much not for the invasion, and outright protesting it.
We're not talking about americans in general, we're talking about people who knowingly signed up to murder children for oil.
Show me American soldiers protesting the invasion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVInoV0l6JU
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ubP6yyf3A0o
https://youtu.be/yssr3H4OYmc?t=1726
Just the stuff you can find, that has certain implications. Good luck getting anything thanks to this propaganda war.
There was also some warships toilets getting sabotaged and clogged iirc.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/07/us-veterans-iran-war-reaction
She clearly was, otherwise she wouldn't be wearing the uniform. Imagine dying for pedophiles smh.
People always act like being in the military just absolves them of all their personal moral obligations. It is the morally correct thing to refuse these orders even if it means going to prison. Yes believe it or not, you going to prison is better than you killing innocent people.
No guarantee she would actually have went with the attack on Iran. Did you see the soldier ruining USA's opsec by filming lazily his own radar system being blown up?
It doesnt matter how you are involved with the war, if you help run a base, operate a drone or whatever else. You are still assisting war crimes.
You can't view everything so black and white. These are normal people who signed up to do something they thought was right, only to be pushed into an unexpected war, their lives and livelihoods, their honor, their people at stake. But when push comes to shove, many of them just won't co-operate in the war, and those people aren't typically televised.
Many of us willingly or unwillingly participate in questionable systems, burning fossil fuels as a side-effect. This does not mean we want to, self-preservation is a thing. But for example: even though I depend on many of the goods going through the suez cannal, I root for it's closure, for the destruction of fossil fuels. I have a portable solar panel, and I want to transition to 100% energy independence and my own grown food.
Look at the army for freedom of Russia that is fighting it's own country. Quite a few defectors helping Ukraine.
You only make things worse by rejecting these people as scum, by not leaving any room for their humanity. You kill who you must to protect yourself, you try to get them to defect to your side, and you can't do that by damning them right away.
These people were just like you, believing they would rise up against their tyrannical government, and lay down their lives for the greater good, but it is not so simple or easy.
But when push comes to shove, many of them just won’t co-operate in the war
Uh, source? Or even convincing anecdotal evidence?
Fucking clean wehrmacht myth but for yank troops lol
"But have you considered having a nuanced opinion about the soldiers of a country that said it plans to flatten all of Iran" - No reasonable person ever
Ok, so if your country goes to war, I expect you to instantly start shooting your own troops.
I just know that your way never works out in real life. The amount of death, destruction, horror that would come about of applying your ideology would be incomprehensible.
No but i would be okay with people calling them terrorists and celebrating them losing. I will always cheer for aggressors eating shit, no matter where they come from.
The amount of death, destruction and horror that comes from yank troops not fragging their officers is already incomprehensible.
Severe amounts of moronic in this post if you're being genuine.
Maybe people being killed is bad no matter who they are and an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind and all that
No, some people dying is definitely worse, moron :)
Welp, seems Nicole won't be showing up on Lemmy anymore.
Wait, you know Nicole?
Why did she? Seems like a case of FAFO.
Did you know that recruiters LIE?
Imagine being broke and struggling through college. You get an email from a recruiter - they have access to the university’s entire mailing of course - telling you that all you have to do is show up to a few weeks of boot camp, and do drill on the weekend.
You’re 18, and don’t know that recruiters are not just allowed to sell you up the river, but encouraged to. It seems like a nice alternative to student loan hell debt and living off jars of peanut butter.
I do ASVAB prep occasionally, which I have mixed feelings about, and have a client who I’ve just gotten to being able to borrow when subtracting. Do you think he’s equipped to make an intelligent choice when a recruiter promises him the world?
Seems like a case of bait-and-switch.
She was a reservist, meaning she was told she'd be training on weekends and working her regular job during the week. It should be illegal to send reservists to these wars of choice, but Dubya changed that during the War on Terror because no one wanted to go to Iraq and Afghanistan to die.
And I'm not comfortable blaming the soldiers just yet, when all the evidence we have is that the military and joint chiefs (sans Keg-Breath) told Donald not to do this and he told them to fuck themselves and did it anyway.
In this day and age, if you sign up for the military you know there is a high chance you will be sent to a foreign country that did nothing to us to kill brown children to distract from the fact that our leaders are raping other children.
Or you would know it if the USA wasn't the most propagandized place on the face of the earth.
you know there is a high chance you will be sent to a foreign country
Being sent to staff a base and being sent to a war are two totally different things. (At least until February 2026)
Or you would know it if the USA wasn’t the most propagandized place on the face of the earth.
The military itself opposed this, and that's in the public record. This president has a record of avoiding wars and disentangling the US from them, especially in Syria and Afghanistan. (Which, ironically, Dems opposed even though these wars had lasted decades.)
Iran and Venezuala are, rightly, unexpected, and if you're blaming reservists for their deaths then you're the one who's propagandized in this case. Can't exactly blame someone for dying in a war when all of the information they have is that it's (relatively) safe to be a US soldier and they can't read a demented person's mind.
Yeah I'm not excusing a hired killer because they thought it was a low chance anyone would ever successfully shoot back.
Can't exactly blame someone for dying in a war when all of the information they have is that it's (relatively) safe to be a US soldier and they can't read a demented person's mind.
No, but you can blame them having a complete lack of moral character and for being completely, and willfully, ignorant of what their job entails.
Nope but she did chose to live and die to enforce imperialism so hard to feel bad for her.
The westboro Baptist Church used to praise the death of soldiers for their misbegotten ideology.
Don't be like Rev. Fred Phelps.
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