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[-] redbr64@lemmy.world 183 points 1 month ago

I always thought it looked cooler with the orange tank anyway

[-] neuromorph@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

Cooler with white, but heavier.

[-] guy@piefed.social 23 points 1 month ago

Cooler depends on the amount of sunlight available

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[-] Sabata11792@ani.social 103 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Orange makes it go faster. Not the fastest color but it's up there.

[-] filcuk@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 month ago
[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 62 points 1 month ago
[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 169 points 1 month ago

Back when NASA was flinging things into space for the first time, the tolerances that were even possible were extremely tight. Every pound mattered (every pound still matters, but because we have other things to do once we get to space nowadays, plus every pound is expensive).

600 pounds of white paint for the fuel tank was considered unnecessary, once the engineering team figured that it didn't actually protect the special foam covering of the fuel tank anyway. Thus the distinctive orange color!

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 106 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For all the people in the world except the ones from Liberia, Myanmar and the United States, 600 freedom units = ~272 kg

[-] wieson@feddit.org 25 points 1 month ago

Thank you, finally something sensible

[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 15 points 1 month ago

That's 4 and half men. Or a minivan's worth of kids. Or 100 buckets of KFC

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[-] slampisko@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

Oh, I thought the pictures were backwards. The orange being the natural color and the white being paint is really critical information for it to make sense lol

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah same. Orange is much more iconic, glad this happened.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 33 points 1 month ago

Oh my eyes glossed over the word "paint". Thanks.

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[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

High end bicycle equipment has weight specs in grams.

[-] excral@feddit.org 52 points 1 month ago

It's always hillarious to me to see boomers on expensive bikes that aim to save every gram while they could save 20kg on themselves.

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 month ago

Perhaps that's why they are on a bike?

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[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

Or skinny dudes with enormous ballsacks wearing tight Spandex on 15 pound carbon fiber bikes, but a 20 pound motorcycle lock.

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

If you are trying to lose weight, you should be using the worst, heaviest bike possible.

[-] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 19 points 1 month ago

Well, not if you still want to have some fun while doing so.

But I agree, that a regular bike should suffice and you don't need to worry about optimizing gear weight if you're not competing for anything and just ride it for your own well-being.

[-] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Well, not necessarily. A bike that's got a full carbon frame also absorbs shock and vibration from the road better. This means you can ride longer distances without getting fatigued in places like your wrists or ass. Longer rides = more exercise.

But once you have a carbon frame, chasing grams on other components gets to be a bit silly.

[-] autriyo@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

I've yet to ride a carbon frame for any amount of real distance, so idk how good they actually are.

But having a less harsh ride can also be archived by not using the thinnest pizza cutter tires at 10 bar. Especially if we care about time ridden and not avg. speed.

And it's going to be slightly harder to get the same speed out of comfy tires, so that's also more exercise.

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[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In the cycling community we call those guys Freds.

And it's more of a light ribbing than a condemnation, since at least they've got themselves on a bike.

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[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

But, why ? You drink a bit more water that day and it’s void.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 8 points 1 month ago

But what if you drank more water and you didn't have the weight savings?

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

It's a competition between brand. They're at the point where decrease a single gram is incredible task and are all racing to become the lightest weight and aero-est bicycle and get to claim that.

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

I'm too dumb for maths because I have dyscalculia, but i am always amazed by the engineering crowd on how they could improve efficiency by finding and tweaking just the little things.

[-] neuromorph@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Its simple rocket math. Every lb of weight must consume fuel.

Si.pky. 1 lb of weight needs 1 lb of fuel to escape orbit. But the fuel has weight also. So the effective fuel you need to lift the rocket and payload is exponential.

The harder stuff is orbital mechanics. Getting things into orbit is easy. Having thwm go where you want is the hard part.

[-] Town@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 month ago
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[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
  • Artemis tanks were 10m wide and 30m tall.
  • Cylinder surface Area = (2.pi.r^2^) * (2.pi.r.h) ^[curved area plus top and bottom circles]
    • 2 * pi * 5 * 30 ~ 1100m^2^ to paint
  • Paint paints about 10m^2^ per Litre paint
  • Need 1100 / 10 = 110 Litres of paint
  • 1L of paint weighs about 2kg
  • 110 Litres of paint weighs about 220kg
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[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago

Fun fact: Columbia, pictured with the white tank, was the heaviest shuttle and was not modified to have the airlock necessary to dock with the ISS because the performance losses compared to the other shuttles made it difficult to use for ISS operations.

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[-] saturn57@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

The real question is why the default color is orange and not white or gray.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago

The polyurethane spray foam insulation is orange.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

That's the default skin. It costs 100,000 doubloons to unlock the sick neon green and black skin.

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[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

SIX HUNDRED EL BEES? HOLY FUCK THAT'S A LOTTA PAINT.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

That's why American Airlines had the "cheat line" livery. Bare hulls saved them enough weight to carry like an extra 2 passengers.

Plus, polished metal on airframes looks sweet IMHO. Real "DC3 golden era of aviation" vibes.

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[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Remove all the tanks and shit on the bottom to really save weight and just let the shuttle fly? It's not rocket science.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 13 points 1 month ago

Found the Kerbal Space Program player?

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[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 11 points 1 month ago

"Lower the inertial mass." -- Miles O'Brien, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, Season 1, Episode 1.

[-] AffineConnection@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Lower the inertial mass

—what to say when you want your obese Trekkie friend to take care of their health

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[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 month ago

Though isn't that decreasing the aerodynamics and increasing the friction?

[-] Atropos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Probably, but the slowest part of the trip is in the most dense air. Probably still a net benefit!

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