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I do like the idea of calling the current US government the "Epstein Network".
I call them the Epstein Class. It's not just this administration, or even one party, or even just politicians in general. It is the global elite and their unjust system of exploitation called capitalism that has allowed Trump to do what he does with no consequences. As long as the Epstein Class exists, there will be more Epsteins.
I like the Iranian ministers, they just casually walk with their people in the middle of a war and have the balls to call these guys out in front of everyone.
This is so well played!
Now Iran can attempt an attack almost openly on the US soil and many will believe it was an inside job. Well, that's what happens when you have 0 credibility at home due to your compulsive need to say BS all the time.
Nah, we’ll still be able to tell. Effective, strategic, hits people of all walks of life? Iran. Bungled, half-assed, and happens in a blue city, in a community of color, at a gay bar… you know.
So Iran just has to do it all bungled and half-assed and we'll never suspect it was them!
What dimension of chess are we now playing? 6D? 7D? Shit’s going to start blowing up and 1/3 of the people will be claiming it, 1/3 blaming it, and 1/3 lying about it, when in fact it was a laptop battery that overheated.
You mean like that “potential drone strike attempt” in California that the FBI said Iran might try to do? Despite it being unlikely that Iran has drones capable of striking California?
A head's up, totally feasible. A drone strike can be launched from a boat, a box truck, a garage, anywhere you can have an operator to control it.
I'm not saying that this particular threat was a real problem, but personally I do not understand how the US has not been hit yet. Why is Iran not even bothering?
We have sonar so good we can find a dead billionaire at the bottom of the sea. Ain't no way they get a boat with a drone in range without us letting it happen.
lmao you still think brown people are the terrorists?
I swear some people are unredeemable.
I swear some people are unredeemable.
This is an ironic statement.
Said the racist
Tbh pushing this narrative far and wide is going to do a LOT to defang the impact of any sort of false flag bullshit the orange regime might attempt.
not to put an extra tin foil on my tin foil hat.
but now, given the US government, even if Iran did perpetrate a 9/11 style attack. I will assume it was a false flag attack by the US.
It’s not tin foil hatty.
Kash fucking Patel was told to gut the team at the FBI responsible for identifying and tracking threats originating from Iran right before we started shooting things at them. That’s as close to a false-flag setup as you can get without actually just doing it yourself.
that's why I have no doubt that any attack in the US will be done by the US.
my point being, that by being that sloppy and untrustworthy, even is Iran did commit an attack, everyone will believe it was the US. not saying they will. just that the US government is fucked either way
Is there a geographical reason to target California? Because, if anything, I imagine Texas would be the bigger target. California opposes Trump, Texas does not. Why would Iran want to target the enemy of its own enemy?
do you think there are "good"states and"bad states"?
they are all the same, we started a war, and attacked civilian centers, we set the terms of engagement. random Californians are targets thanks to trump
Random Californians were put at risk thanks to Trump, obviously. I wouldn’t dare argue otherwise. My point has more to do with what I imagine the strategy of a state like Iran would be. I think your point stands, if the offensive were coming from China. Do you think Iran believes they’d stand a chance at accomplishing anything via an assault on US soil? If it were to happen at all, which I already believe to be quite unlikely, then I can only really accept it would happen with political precision. Iran would, if they were smart, try not to give Californians a reason to change their position on the war.
do you think there are "good"states and"bad states"?
Yeah, I do. There are states that are gerrymandered to hell, propagandized to hell, and serve the interests of a very small and damaging minority. That minority includes Trump and his enablers. You alternatively have the equally shit alternative states, and yeah… I picked that side.
in WW2, was there a distinction on which parts of Germany were more or less in favour of Hitler? When we carpet bombed Cambodia, did we looked into the regional polls? when we bombed Teheran, do they look at which neighbours and school girls were more or less in favour of the regime? When we endorsed a genocide in Gaza, did we ask to only target certain neighbours based on polls?
This "In hope they spare the blue states" is such an unimaginably entitled statement. Sounds like "But I am one of the good guys!!!"
No, the US has a long imperialist career of wars of aggressions and war crimes. You have personally benefited from them by having low fuel costs, you are not innocent, you might not have consented to this, but you are part of it, your taxes paid for it. If anything the US is the nation that need to be liberated.
in WW2, was there a distinction on which parts of Germany were more or less in favour of Hitler?
In WW2, the war was explicit and you could be prosecuted for protest in Germany. There’s little reason at all to account for the political climate aside from the states official stance.
When we carpet bombed Cambodia, did we looked into the regional polls? when we bombed Teheran, do they look at which neighbours and school girls were more or less in favour of the regime? When we endorsed a genocide in Gaza, did we ask to only target certain neighbours based on polls?
We as a militaristic superpower similarly have zero need for as much. We impose by domination, which I’m literally arguing Iran can’t do.
This "In hope they spare the blue states" is such an unimaginably entitled statement. Sounds like "But I am one of the good guys!!!"
I hear you, it sounds wishful and entitled. Yet, my point has nothing to do with how I perceive myself and whether that’s any “good” or not. My point was that Iran would most likely want to consider how best to approach such an attack. I can’t help but feel it would behoove them to not unite the US by making war with Iran something Texas and California agree on.
Iran has already made public statements to include the likes of “we are not at war with the American people.” I interpret that to mean they understand Trump (et al) as the enemy, not the American people. Therefore, I again state with conviction, I can not see a single scenario where the political climate of a state is not considered prior to any attack. This is political and if they were going to attack at all — it’ll be somewhere alined with their enemy (who they themselves said was not the American people). Sorry to say, but that’s not California. My point was merely that Texas would make more sense than California… not that any of this makes much sense in the first place.
No, the US has a long imperialist career of wars of aggressions and war crimes. You have personally benefited from them by having low fuel costs, you are not innocent, you might not have consented to this, but you are part of it, your taxes paid for it. If anything the US is the nation that need to be liberated.
Is this a different subject? I don’t really understand why this was the closing argument.
I doubt Iran will conduct an attack on US soil, only hopes to end this is for Trump to lose the midterms, which he will cheat. Any Iranian attack before the midterms will galvanize the nation, or give Trump more political capital to mess the election due to a crisis. Any attack will likely be an American false flag.
my finishing statement is that no American is innocent. even the blue liberals. Both parties had a long history of war crimes and atrocities. so a Democrat state isn't 'one of the good ones'. It is something we need to fix, it is unbelievable that almost every US president has war crimes listed on their wiki, regardless of party lines. If you want to fix it make sure you vote in the primaries to ensure a progressive who doesn't accept lobbying money (especially AIPAC/Military industrial complex) wins.
I doubt Iran will conduct an attack on US soil, only hopes to end this is for Trump to lose the midterms, which he will cheat. Any Iranian attack before the midterms will galvanize the nation, or give Trump more political capital to mess the election due to a crisis. Any attack will likely be an American false flag.
I totally agree. It’s why I feel like the claim it would be California (of all places) is just icing on the cake. It’s silly to believe Iran is planning such a thing.
my finishing statement is that no American is innocent. even the blue liberals. Both parties had a long history of war crimes and atrocities. so a Democrat state isn't 'one of the good ones'. It is something we need to fix, it is unbelievable that almost every US president has war crimes listed on their wiki, regardless of party lines. If you want to fix it make sure you vote in the primaries to ensure a progressive who doesn't accept lobbying money (especially AIPAC/Military industrial complex) wins.
Also agree.
Didn't the FBI already say shit about bombing California?
Given every accusation is a confession with the GoP I immediately figured they were going to do it themselves and blame Iran. And that California was chosen to try to scare it into line, much like other blue states have been targeted by the current administration.
Wait, they did? You got a source?
Edit: ok yeah I remember this. I thought it smelled to high heaven initially. Fact check report https://archive.is/2026.03.13-151616/https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fbi-california-iran-drone-strikes/
That particular archive site is shit. I can do the captcha 10 times and it won't load the site. Additionally, I believe their captcha page is used to ddos Wikipedia.
what's the difference? the orange pedophile couldn't care less about public opinion and it's clear by now Americans will not mount an opposition of any significance at this point
Probably to change Europes minds on joining the war.
I give Europeans more credit than that...
That just means they’ll have to make it so big that it literally shocks the U.S. into believing they’re dealing with an existential threat.
You know all that uranium you keep hearing about on the news…
We are facing an existential threat, that threat is Trump.
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
This is such an annoying reply that I see everywhere. Yes, you need to treat a disease, but sometimes a single symptom can be the most threatening part of a disease.
If I'm having a heart attack, I don't need a diatribe about diet and exercise to fix the disease, I need CPR to fix the symptom.
He may just be a symptom of a greater problem, but he's a pretty big fucking problem by himself.
Normally I would dismiss this as stupid propaganda. Now I am considering it to be an incredulous reality. 😒
The Epstein Network
Trump started a war to protect himself and his epstein buddies. Nothing is off the table. Human life is cheap for these unfeeling creeps.
Nobody does false flag attacks like the US. One must just assume that if something like that happens it was fully planned and deployed by the Burger admin, that's always the most probable scenario.
You’re talking about America, the biggest terrorist/genocide state on earth. I don’t think they give a crap which flimsy excuse they need to use to cause terror on nations across the planet. They love war and terror, all to a degree
You’re talking about America, the biggest terrorist/genocide state on earth.
Second biggest, israel takes the top place.
You fucking wish, Thats like saying a toddler is more dangerous than his dad. That’s another thing you colonist love, to pass the blame and point the finger at others to make yourselves look less guilty.
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... The world has gone very wrong when this doesn't even sound so unbelievable. I only see one issue:
So far the US seems to have given up trying to make pretext for anything. Trump can do anything he wants and be worshipped for it.
He'd do it if he wants to restart the draft for troops on the ground.
That being said, I don't think it would acrually work that well and could easily backfire within the US. At the very least he would need heavy congressional support.
It wouldn't work well. I'm old as fuck but most Americans are flat out not doing it. This is not Vietnam.
I don't like Trump or the war either but this is literally just propaganda. I trust Iran as much as I trust Trump. Not at all. Foreign authoritarians are not somehow more trustworthy than domestic ones. The phrase "the Epstein Network" is just an attempt to anchor this into domestic political controversies.
Bluntly Trump doesn't care about public opinion about this war enough to do this or the lead in to this war would have looked much more like Iraq
But he does care about rigging elections and would love a reason to attempt to suspend elections.
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