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submitted 1 month ago by kamayatu24@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Reddit CEO says facial verification may be introduced. Ostensibly to prevent bots.

But we all know how dangerous this can be. But most likely Reddit users will just accept it.

Although they have a great free analogue right under their noses - Lemmy. Which is many times better than its competitor.

I wish more people would discover Lemmy, but that's unlikely.

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[-] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 294 points 1 month ago

There's no way they want to eliminate bot traffic, it would kill 2/3rds of their traffic instantly. So this just means, "bots that aren't paying us."

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 138 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Reddit, very famously, used bot traffic at its inception to create the illusion of a community big enough to compete with Digg.

It was the OG "fake it till you make it" business.

As the company implements an increasingly draconian "ban every account that looks at me sideways" admin policy, I'm not sure if "2/3rds of the traiffc" isn't lowballing it. There are entire threads - from initial post to bullshit bottom comment - that get created by bot traffic on the modern site. It's a full blown hall of mirrors over there.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 month ago

OG “fake it till you make it” business.

Feels like 99% of "social" network startups. The dead Internet theory started before the LLM craze.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Goes back to email. Easier to create a machine that churns out digital messages than find humans to do the work manually. So you get increasing loads of spam and gibberish, attempting to out-shout one another in a digital space with no bureaucratic regulation or material limits.

That said, one thing that made early social media like Facebook and MySpace and Livejournal appear valuable was the degree of human interaction. What's more, the interpersonal networks that formed between verified humans gave enormous value to communications across the platform.

Facebook did a pretty good job, early on, of limiting who could join based on authentication through college admin offices. MySpace had a large cohort of real human artists producing real human music, which attracted a real human following. Livejournal predated a lot of advertisement-by-blogging. After the Dot-Com bubble burst, this is where you could see green shoots of economic value in a digital space.

We've demolished all that chasing fictitious capital. How valuable it was in practice is debatable, of course. But it's all gone now.

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[-] kamayatu24@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

The dead internet isn't a theory on Reddit. It's a reality there. Almost all traffic is 

[-] krisevol@lemmus.org 18 points 1 month ago

I read somewhere that it's estimated that reddit is 90% bots in the comments, and we already know 99% of front page context is from bots accounts.

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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

If not already, I assume they’ll offer a for-fee API for bots.

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[-] SattaRIP@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 1 month ago

So the entire point of reddit, the anonymity, is to be thrown out the fucking window lmao

[-] kamayatu24@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Today everyone throws their principles out the window. Such is the present(

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[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

in order to crack down on ~~AI~~ unprofitable bots

I'm sure they'll have no issues allowing bots that align with their interests

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[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 month ago
[-] low@lemmy.today 17 points 1 month ago

You have to pick a server.

I promise you, that's why

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[-] chunes@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago

Requiring face ID AFTER genAI has become great at generating faces is certainly a decision

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

No one ever accused reddit of making good decisions.

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[-] mwdc1039@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago

I'm a new lemmy user because of this

[-] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago

Welcome! It's WAY quieter over here because it's mostly people, not bots.

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[-] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 50 points 1 month ago

Since when is Polymarket's Twitter account a reliable source of information?

[-] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago

Since when is Polymarket’s Twitter account a reliable source of information?

I can't comment on that specifically, but it was reported by pcmag and others

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[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 48 points 1 month ago

So when is this happening, so we can mentally and logistically prepare for the next influx of new users into the fediverse?

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[-] Ashrakal@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 month ago

I made the switch to Lemmy today, feels old school kind of good.

Reddit is not only allowing for bots to run rampant, but also it’s managed by the Epstein class and their supporters.

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[-] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 41 points 1 month ago

Im sure the website that sold userdata to every single AI company to train their models on wouldn't ever even think of selling the faces of every one of its users to a company to train its AI face generator on.

Or that the website which accidentally admitted "the most reddit addicted city" is an air force base that hosts their online counterintelligence teams... Where was I going with this? Hmm must be nothing.

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

BREAKING NEWS! Reddit figured out how to make their platform even shittier

[-] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 month ago

Lemmyflation is real

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 31 points 1 month ago

Do it. I can't wait for it.

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[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 29 points 1 month ago

Inb4 bots pass this and my face is rejected

[-] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

It took a lot of customer abuse to break Reddit's stranglehold, but they are perilously close to a Digg like migration off their platform. Spez can take a hike into bankruptcy.

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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago

My laptop’s TPM requires a pint of blood to allow booting to an OS. Two pints if it’s Linux.

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[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 month ago

The real problem was third party clients I swear

[-] gurty@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Watch /r/politics posts go from 22k upvotes to 3k upvotes overnight.

[-] marighost@piefed.social 23 points 1 month ago

Lemme get this straight

foster a website that encourages engagement instead of real human interaction bots flood the website to farm engagement with months and years-old reposts obliterate your API support, causing an exodus of users that use 3rd party apps slowly hemorrhage users while going IPO with your bot site now mandate id checks so we can weed out the bots that made your IPO look so good

Genius play by Spez. (/s)

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 month ago

I mean, requiring FaceID is a horrible idea, but there maybe might be a better alternative (I'm talking about the general idea of a "proof of humanity" online, not specifically using this solution).

The fact of the matter is that bots are a massive issue online. When russia got sanctioned and cut off from the western Internet, r/Conservative went radio silent for a couple of days - until they figured out how to VPN through the Netherlands. There are whole communities where bots discuss bot-posted content. And I have no doubt in my mind that it will also happen on Lemmy as soon as there's even a hint of profit* to be found.

* "profit" not as in "monetary gain", but as "any kind of gain, be it money, influence, propaganda, chaos", etc., etc.

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[-] kaotic@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago
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[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

I don't care, because reddit, but this makes me wonder if you can just have an AI generate a generic face and feed that in.

It's obviously not about bots. Isn't spez friendly with Peter Thiel?

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[-] Taldan@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

They made it easier for bots to thrive by allowing hidden post histories, limiting the API, and punishing users for "bad" reports, but claim they need face ID to filter out bots?

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[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago

I'm glad they violated my account for a non violation and denied my appeal in the first week of opening a new account then. They aren't trying to make their moderation believable, I'm persona non grata for whatever reasons, to appease the administration I presume.

Fuck them, glad I stayed off. I kind of need the help on some stuff though, there just aren't enough people or communities on here yet.

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[-] MortUS@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

More lowkey polymarket advertisements.

Why is it the only place I see polymarket is on Lemmy screenshots?

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[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago

get ready for an influx of users to Lemmy I guess.

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[-] Lagviper@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago

This data surely goes straight to Palentir

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[-] BilSabab@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Reddit should crack down on human users instead! Let Reddit be AI Bot Exclusive space!

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[-] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yea I prefer tl get my Reddit news from a gambling site that facilitates bets on human lives.

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

What pisses me off about that statement is that it won't even fix the bots. It's public knowledge that most of the bots on the platform are intentional to maintain the image that the site is super popular still, which means those accounts would just get manually verified and skip the process.

[-] astraeus@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago

Making a new Reddit account as a human in 2026 genuinely sucks too most subreddits just automod ban new accounts with low comment karma… but if every popular sub has said automod… yeah. And then 99% of the front page is astroturfed anyway

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[-] dotCody@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Fuck /u/spez

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