Are there actually any US-made consumer network routers on the market? All the brands I can think of are pretty much made in Asia these days.
Ubiquiti is an American company, not sure if the tech is really MADE here though, seems like that'd be weird considering the components are all made outside the US anyway.
Ubiquiti may not be considered consumer with regards to this, but it’s pretty unclear so it’s a bit of a gamble.
Yeah, it's all so ambiguous. I switched to them because they were better made and cheaper than the Netgear I was forced to replace after 1.5yrs. It'll be interesting to see where this ends up. Probably lawsuits. Glad I'm already set for a while, I guess.
It would be funny if, like, the UniFi line got banned but the EdgeOS line didn’t just based on target audience
Functionally no. This will force most users to use whatever their ISP provides.
Those can’t be imported either lol. This ruling will never stand up in court.
It's incredible how every day in this country continues to be unimaginably dumber than the last.
It's really amazing how this country just ran on word and vibes up to this point. Turns out you could just do whatever and nobody would have the cajones to stop you
Just to spell out what many comments already hint at:
There are no US-made routers. "Made" here refers to companies, not where the stuff is actually made. Even if the plastic housing happened to be made in the US for one or two products, the components are still from far away.
Those few US companies paid MAGA for this.
This is corruption pure and simple.
And also I'm SURE there will be no backdoors installed in these routers. This was a mutual deal to control information, not just a financial one
So... all network routers?
Great, so zero network products can be sold, and we have to dispose of any existing ones in a couple years.
I guess the US won't have any Internet anymore.
Perhaps it’s a fallback plan in case the universal Internet ID thing doesn’t work out. Gotta keep the masses stupid and uncoordinated.
Based on the language, it would seem to exclude ISP provided routers as those are not “designed to be installed by the consumer”. It also excludes anything not SoHo.
I’m so glad they’re focusing on this instead of how shitty and expensive our home internet is.
You'll be able to save so much money once private households wont have internet anymore!
Be ready to get shut out of the global internet and only use Trumpernet.
Seriously though, they'll block yalls internet access in a few years.
Glad Australia is finally getting some decent fiber links up through Singapore.
SEA-ME-WE3 is a joke and before IndigoWest and ASC, almost all of our international transit was via US.
This is so stupid that I can barely even think of a nefarious reason to do it.
It's so they can more reliably distribute their own backdoors.
But how? America doesn’t make routers. There’s no American routers to put backdoors in!
That'll be part of the "concessions" that foreign made routers make to get approval.
Why the fuck else would the department of defense need to weigh in?
Something is happening, first the age verification and now this. They're setting up to verify identities online I presume?
I'm more wondering that if all consumer network routers have to be made in the US (e.g. forcing people to use the ISP-provided one), it makes it easier for them to utilise the ISP's backdoors for monitoring of people's LANs. If that's actually the goal, then the next logical step would be to deny anyone access using a third-party router or ISP-provided router that didn't have their firmware.
Quick question. What would happen if China decided to get angry about this, and stop selling 100% of their goods to American companies unless they allowed 100% of their goods to be sold without restrictions?
So consumer grade routers are a security risk, but not ISP switches or server routers? That's the opposite of what a state level actor would look for.
Brother it is class war so
I mean, it’s kind of old news that these consumer routers make up the majority of bot nets, although I doubt requiring them to be US-made will change much.
The rent for your ISP provided hardware is about to go up by x10. Also you will get a letter saying you don't have an approved router installed.
This is a good time to remind everyone to avoid any of the major manufacturers. Get pre-built OPEN boxes and install OpenWRT. You performance and capabilities will beat the shit out of any of the other stuff anyway.
Sadly, there were a few great foreign-made manufacturers who had great hardware for this. Technically they aren't "network routers" and just blank hardware, so probably don't fall into the idiotic language put forth here.
I’ve got a GLiNet router with OpenWRT, running adguard on it. Best router experience I’ve ever had. I wonder how quick this ruling takes effect, might be smart to buy another while I can lol
YUP. I've deployed hundreds of these. They make good hardware, their developers and hardware engineers are quick to respond to customers, and they just make a good product. They even share their board designs, because why not?
Sucks they're going to be caught in the crossfire here.
What the fuck are they doing?
Taking a huge payment from Comcast and Verizon would be my guess. The language appears to exclude ISP-owned rental routers.
Spying on citizens at best. Manipulating content at worst.
I’m thinking exempt based on the FCC language of “designed to be installed by the consumer”. ISP provided routers are usually hooked up by the installer tech. Which makes me wonder which ISP chortled orange man’s balls to get this passed.
What does this mean for the ISP supplied units?
I’m thinking exempt based on the FCC language of “designed to be installed by the consumer”. ISP provided routers are usually hooked up by the installer tech. Which makes me wonder which ISP chortled orange man’s balls to get this passed.
At least round here if there’s no wiring to be done the ISP just couriers the boxes and lets the customer plug them in.
So basically just like... the internet is banned?
Constructing the pillars of the bigly yuge firewall of america
So uh, OPNSense?
Get them pitchforks ready.
And guillotines.
This must mean the ones already in our homes and offices are perfectly safe.
I wonder if this means the rest of the world gets cheap routers for a while, or whether prices go up because the demand isn’t there to make them available at volume anymore.
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