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[-] ImperialATAT@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago
[-] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Do not connect your tv to the internet. Period.

[-] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 week ago

I'm suffering for that right now. Sony Bravia.

Firstly, I didn't want to buy a smart TV, but that's pretty much all that's sold anymore. I also didn't intend to connect it to the internet, but a well-meaning guest wanted to watch TV at night, and thought he was troubleshooting, not realizing he was in the TV menu and not the streaming box.

The TV updated, and IMMEDIATELY got worse. Formerly, if I turned it on, it would go straight to the streaming box. Great! As shitty updates do, it changed the settings, and would instead open to the TV's menu, so it could advertise streaming services. It also forgot that the TV input is HDMI 1. It became strictly worse, in the rare edge case of every fucking time you turn it on.

I don't trust it to not automatically connect, or to forget my login credentials, so I go to do a factory reset. It's literally an option in a menu. The TV gets stuck in a boot loop. Talking to support, they think it broke the mainboard. A factory reset bricked the TV.

It's under warranty, but this is fucking crazy. NEVER connect your TV directly to the internet.

[-] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

If you have a firewall then make yourself a new network and block it from accessing the internet. Then you can use the smart features that your TV might have, such as powering it on/off, controlling it with Home Assistant, etc and also feel safe knowing that can't happen again. Hope your replacement TV comes with the older firmware and you get another go at it.

[-] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

This is the way.

HTPC for life!

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[-] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Walmart acquired Vizio with the express purpose of using TV's to serve ads. In fact, that is exactly what they said they were going to do.

No surprises here.

[-] SeventySeven@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

Sounds like the trash taking itself out, no? If I don't want smart features in the first place, then I see this as an absolute win. Nobody should be connecting their TV the Internet in the first place. Always make sure to use things like android TV boxes, fire sticks ect.. over using the built in "smart" features as those TVs will be phoning home all day and serving you ads the minute you connect it to the Internet lol

[-] teft@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

Just build a media pc. Those media sticks have trackers and telemetry too.

As soon as RAM isn’t more expensive than the TV.

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[-] nathan@lemmy.permisuan.com 3 points 1 week ago

I just wish there was a way to control the PC as easy as a tv remote. I would totally do this except my wife and kids just want to hit a button on the remote instead of fiddling with keyboard or a track pad or controller of some kind

[-] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

FLIRC is your friend! It's a USB IR receiver that you can train with literally any IR remote you have. Once you set it up (and it does take a little elbow grease to train it), it just works.

[-] teft@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

I believe Kodi supports IR remote controls.

[-] sys110x@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I use LibreELEC on a mini-PC for my home TV. LibreELEC is a Linux distribution that runs Kodi and is pretty good for a media centre straight out of the box. I use a Rii Mini K25 remote (with a dongle) to control it: https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B06XHF7DNQ

The downside is I can't control the TV itself with this, but this can be sorted out with a USB IR receiver (like this: https://amzn.asia/d/0hvzkP93), LIRC (https://lirc.org/) or something similar, *and a universal remote. On my to-do list lol

I have a DHCP reservation for the TV itself and it's blackholed on my network. The only reason it's connected at all is so I can monitor what it tries to do.

Edit: Also need a universal remote for the IR solution so it can talk to the PC IR receiver and the TV IR receiver separately.

[-] UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au 1 points 1 week ago

Keep an eye out for the new Steam controller. It can interact via gyro, touchpad, and traditional controller input methods.

My family stayed at my house and “the TV wasn’t working,” because it doesn’t have network access and I use an Nvidia Shield instead, so they connected it to the Wi-Fi and ad overlays showed up in the menus! I’m still mad about it years later.

Luckily I dodged a bullet and it didn’t brick it or anything, and the ads went away when the internet access did. I just disconnected it from the network and manually banned the MAC address in case anyone else tries it again.

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[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

So Vizio is offering dumb TVs without Walmart accounts? I am actually kind of interested.

[-] Peffse@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Vizio is likely offering unusually large paperweights without Walmart accounts.

now require a Walmart account for setup and accessing smart TV features

[-] deacon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

In a functioning society I think that would be criminal.

[-] nullPointer@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

it'll still be listening and spying.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Just don't connect it to the internet 🤷‍♂️

[-] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 14 points 1 week ago

Welcome to Earth where using Smart features is Dumb.

[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Roku is every bit as bad. They bricked all customer's previously purchased TVs by implementing a new user agreement through their UI without warning. It couuld not be bypassed. Opting out required first opting in, agreeing to those new terms and then mailing a letter within a very short window with explicit, detailed requirements.

My next TV won't be connected to the Internet and definitely won't be a Roku or Visio product.

[-] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Does the TV work as a screen if you factory reset it then never reconnect it to the internet?

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It does. I wound up buying two new TVs because of the thing OP is talking about here. You could actually get around agreeing and then opting out by removing the TV from the network and then restoring it to factory and never reconnecting it.

[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Haven't tried that yet. For now I've blocked most of Roku's BS with Adguard Home.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

This is fine IMO, because you shouldn't use the smart features in the first place. Just get a 3rd party streaming box. The ONN one is like $25. (Or if you're a giant nerd hook your computer to your TV.)

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[-] Monkey@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

You should suggest this as an article on the Consumer Rights Wiki

[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago

My first two questions when buying a tv is

How many HDMIs does it have? Where are they located?

Last question, How to disable most features?

[-] Fondots@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I really only need 1 HDMI port on my TV- to connect my AV receiver to, everything else gets plugged into that receiver, it's got about 8 HDMI ports.

Right now there's 3 consoles, a pc, and a Chromecast hooked up to it, so I have ports to spare, and I haven't had to use anything on my tv since I initially set it up and set the input to HDMI 1

It's not necessarily feasible for everyone, it does take up a little more space in your entertainment center that not everyone has, but I also think it's 100% worth it to at least have a decent set of speakers hooked up to your TV if you can find the space and budget to do so.

[-] motruck@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

TVs are screens or privacy nightmares. You get to choose as the consumer.

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 1 week ago

Required to use smart features? Thank you Walmart for encouraging people not to connect their TVs to the internet!

[-] invertedspear@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

My blueray player broke, and my tv stopped showing me to use certain apps and I can’t figure out why. But a used PS4 cost me $85 and solved all my problems. And they left a copy of Minecraft in it, so I even have a game to play.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

I'm tempted to go back to htpc lol. The tracking is so bad these days. I need to block the mac of my tv (Google tv) and just do a tiny PC or something instead.

[-] daannii@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I just use my PC through my TV.

Also don't buy tvs with voice activation.

That means they have mics on 24/7.

[-] lemmyng@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You'd be better off buying a non-smart Samsung commercial TV from eBay and getting a $20 Onn 4K TV Box from Walmart. The latter can be Degoogled and sideloaded with Stremio, Cloudstream, or your streaming app of choice to make it the ultimate privacy-respecting media center.

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[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I think I prefer my 14 inch CRT

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I used to prefer CRTs too... And then I got an OLED. Nothing else comes close, not even the best CRTs. Especially if it's got quantum dots in combination with OLED.

Given that input lag was already solved five years ago, really the only advantage CRTs still have left is their ability to look great at non-native resolutions. But upscaling filters like HQX/xBR for retro games, and DLSS/FSR for modern titles, have all but completely eliminated that last remaining advantage. These filters are really good at upscaling lower resolution content to fit your display's pixels. Hell, DLSS is so good that it looks better than native 4K.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The voice came from an oblong metal plaque like a dulled mirror which formed part of the surface of the right-hand wall. Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely.

– George Orwell

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Its crazy how shitty they've gotten. I got one on black Friday probably 10 years ago and it didnt have and built in apps just casting from your phone. A few years later they updated it and suddenly it had apps and demanded you agree to their TOS and all that (possibly also download their Vizio app?). I didnt keep it for long after that (mostly because it was a budget ass TV with 4K but not HDR) and replaced it with an LG C3 AMOLED from Costco, which I couldn't be happier with. In our bedroom we have a TCL and I think that's where the sweet spot is with budget TVs

[-] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

So Vizio is a donmart brand? I wish they'd make up their minds.

[-] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Nearly every electronic device sold at Walmart is a unique SKU sold nowhere else.

They have their own internal logistics and manufacturing specialist team that works with manufacturers to hit specific wholesale price targets that they demand to even consider carrying their products in store. They reduce the number of ports, features, included accessories, quality of materials, etc. to get the that specific price.

The manufacturers take a huge hit on their own profits from these... but in theory will make up for that with sheer sales quantity.

Requiring a Walmart account probably means some sort of kickback to Vizio, or other wholesale arrangement. And since these devices are usually unique SKUs that can't be sold elsewhere, they can receive differentiated software, have no risk of any sort of price matching, etc.

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[-] arcine@jlai.lu 1 points 1 week ago

Excellent News ! Finally, an easy way to disable every smart feature !

[-] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

My mini pc or laptop connected via HDMI to a projector setup makes me more happy every day when I see crap like this. Bonus is you can move it to the patio for outside movie night and it's a whopping five pounds. Same goes for moving apartments because I've always moved too often.

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