Now the question is which is easier, convincing millions of people to vote for “anyone not a republican” or convincing a candidate to be more than “not republican”
Hey, primaries are around now. It's a great time for that!
Participate in primaries. THIS is the election you want for that.
If you are form the US, you are having your primaries by now.
Those are the ones where good people appear and need your vote to stay on the race. Go participate there, instead of complaining about the main election.
"But they'll steal the elections!!!!!"
Oh yeah? Just like all those state and special elections they've been losing by double-digit electorate shifts for the last 18 months? Including the one covering FUCKING MAR-A-LAGO???
Grow the fuck up. Get registered to vote, and when elections come round, VOTE, DAMN IT. Fascism only wins if you just give up and let it.
Exactly. I personally believe the election is going to be stolen, but nobody should fucking do the job FOR them. Voting MIGHT work, and you can still prepare for ridiculous, shortsighted guerilla fantasies after taking a day to go TRY the easy solution.
They'll try to shove you off the platform with constant negativity and trying to act like Trump is just a continuation of all the same. If you didn't care before, why do you care now?
It's not. It's different.
To only have two sides is the problem.
Sure, but as far as what we can control right now, let's elect some fucking Democrats please
How much longer will this be a cookie cutter answer?
Until there are enough grassroots progressive candidates to take over the democratic party the same way the tea party movement took over the republican party, and finally some progressive initiatives can pass into law, such as eliminating FPTP.
Please don't take the "just vote democrats into office" answer to mean "sit tight and do nothing but vote" when voting is really the bare minimum activism you should be doing to preserve a democratic system.
I just wonder how patient US voters are, for the changes you project.
Does it matter? Most voters have no attention span. They aren't revolutionaries. They aren't going to take to the streets no matter how bad things get. Stop trying to change people who aren't going to change when you lack the influence to change them in the first place, and focus on trying to leverage what you've got as productively as you can.
Build your cadres, make the change you can, and make lemonade from the lemons you've got.
Let’s get Democrats controlling all three branches of government for more than 30 seconds to start.
It's going to be an even bigger problem when it drops down to only having one side.
The Red Army is not coming to the rescue.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, you dumb fuck Americans should have voted for Vermin Supreme.
I refuse to stop shit talking democrats, if they weren't absolutely complicit warmongers we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
Imagine the hammer is the polling box and all your solutions look like voting when your think all your problems look like nails.
Everyone should vote. Absolutely. Go out, do it, cast that ballot.
Voting won’t solve all of our problems. We need to go beyond just voting.
A lack of good options in the general is a sign of poor turnout in primaries.
One should vote, it simply shouldn't be the end of it.
If you voted Democrat and thought you made your part, wrong. You barely made one shift towards one slightly less terrible group. This is not victory. A part of what you should do, yes. All you should do - not.
I want to preface this by saying that I do vote in every election, and I think everyone should exercise their right to vote.
That being said, both parties are bad. We're in a class war, and the Democrats are just as beholden/part of the oligarchy as the Republicans are.
The Republicans are definitely worse than the Democrats. There's no question there, but what we really need is a fucking revolution.
Even if we DO vote, we still get Republicans. They just wear a different color and use a different letter.
That’s just what a Republican would say to potential Democratic voters 🤔
No, that's what a leftist would say who recognizes that there can be no progress for the working class by continuing to enable the capitalist elite.
I usually see it as calling out the political capture of the two-party system which has rendered the United States an oligarchy with increasingly dysfunctional democratic functions. Quite often it is a call out of the partisanship that reinforces the rigidity of the two party system and preventing any positive or lasting reform. At the very least those are the valid contexts I know of for bringing up any both-sideism of the two American political parties.
But yes, the Republicans do win when there is less voting.
People deserve to vote for someone they actually support, not the least terrible option.
Stop blaming the voters.
You're not wrong, but the time to fix that is at the primary and not the general.
And yes, I'm aware the DNC has their thumb on the scale when it comes to the Democratic primary. So that means vote in your local elections too, so that there are actually progressive candidates to choose from instead of corporate-owned do-nothings.
If you don't vote then you don't get to complain until the next election.
You refused to have a say and now you have to live with the consequences. No bitching.
And you should do that in all elections. Small and big.
If you have a problem with the truth, that's a you problem. You can disagree with a course of action, but if truthful criticism of Dear Leader makes someone The Enemy to you, you're much closer to fascists than you'd like to admit.
And scolding people for criticizing Democrats as "both-siders" means you like your fascism with less overt racism.
i vote evry single time. i say both sides are the same but i dont mean politicians..i loved obama. i was fine with biden, justvwish he was younger. woild still vote for him even ifnhe was a corpse because... it would be better.
when i say both sides i mean the bitches online. the people in real life are pretty normal.
online you have facist christians and facist islam lovers. i cant say muslims because they arent actuallyuslims, they are people who say they are left but embrace an intolerant people who behad gay people. so they are the same. everyone who picks a side (right/left) online is a facist
This is lib bullshit. Voting is how you keep the Epstein class in power.
Prove me wrong and nominate an anti-genocide candidate.
Libs would rather argue with you than their centrist friends who vote split ticket.
As an American that's never not voted, I don't understand these fucking assholes.
Genuinely... Fuck them. We're fucked because of the people that don't vote, not because of the minority of insane MAGA's.
The winner of our last presidential election was actually "didn't vote".
Or, put a more concise way, that people can't afford to miss a day if work in order to vote, and increasingly don't see any point because their lives get worse no matter who we elect.
Uh-oh. I guess this means I should show up to the polls next time. And vote for the less-bad candidate.
But I hate it. I HATE ALL OF IT.
That doesn't negate the fact that both parties are, in fact, bad.
“Literally the only way”? They tried violent treason and have refused to swear in duly elected reps that are not of their party. If you think they’ll leave when their term is up just because you voted someone else in… the major players aren’t going anywhere. These aren’t the kind of people that gain power and then let it go. Don’t not vote, but don’t believe that’s how we’re getting out of this mess.
Nah, in the long run: a weak and unstable US is better for the rest of the world. Also: with the orange man, you know what you have and you don't want to vote for more genocide, right?
both sides are bad, but voting for lesser evil is still better than letting bigger evil prosper. But pretending choice between 2 evils is the ONLY option is what is perpetuating this bullshit. And if there truly is nothing to be done except accept your one party system that is split in 2, you need to work on dismantling the whole system instead but that is chemoterapy level option so hopefully it doesnt get to that.
America needs more parties so people have actually something to vote.
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