There is 0 chance that they'll be able to do "regular annual trips" without changing the architecture. Even if they could support the $4B+ launch cost of SLS + Orion every year, which they can't, lockmart couldn't produce enough Orion capsules, Boeing and their contractors couldn't produce enough SLS cores, Northrop Grumman couldn't produce enough SRBs and aerojet rocketdyne couldn't produce RS-25 engines fast enough for even a 1/year launch cadence.
But Elon Musk will produce them by 2024. 2025 at the latest.
He will have a space x mars colony by 2016, trust me bro!
Asking Boeing to speed something up on SLS is equivalent to asking them to kill astronauts violently after giving them more money. Which would lead to a decade-long investigation and redesign, which would certainly slow down the launch schedule.
Didn’t NASA recently say that they won’t be using SLS after Artemis II?
Can't wait for all the fake AI generated versions of whatever video we get out of it, fueling a whole new generation of conspiracy theories
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"Bro, you can see the US/Russian/Chinese/Israeli/Nazi/alien* space bases on the other side!"
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You couldn't pay me to attempt space travel in a Lockheed tincan.
Would not be surprised at all if NASA delays this to next year.
Please don't die, please don't die, please don't die ... sorry, I think they're gonna die.
i thought they canceled that whole thing because krasnov's ego got bruised
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We already pay more than enough to cover healthcare for everyone. We need to stop allowing individuals to profit off essential services such as healthcare.
Every single day of the "war with Iran" costs as much as a Moon Base.
This is a fraction of the cost of healthcare and is absolutely not the reason universal healthcare in the US isn't happening.
Every stupid thing is a fraction of the cost of health care, and we spend money on a LOT of stupid things. How about we stop doing all those stupid things, and use the money on health care instead?
Cool, they're reproducing something they did 60 years ago with primitive tech, at 1000x the price. Quite the accomplishment.
I understand your cynicism, but these missions are ones for which the astronauts have trained for years. The fact that we go to space at all is one of the few things we do as a species that is a feat we can celebrate, and NASA is still in the business of science, rather than billionaire joyrides to space.
The sheer amount of effort that has gone into space exploration and what we've learned each time is awe-inspiring, and it's something we've collectively done, in spite of all the dumb politicking and arbitrary land boundaries.
I'm not celebrating the expensive indulgences of Billionaires, who are more interested in showing off with billion dollar expenditures than do ANYTHING to help their fellow citizens.
Imagine if all these rich douchebags decided that instead sending more trash into space, they pledged the same money to end homelessness, end poverty, end hunger, and make everyone healthy?
Once that's accomplished, then go ahead, spend the rest on giant fireworks into space, and I'll cheer. But to do that BEFORE saving everybody else is just self-indulgent, and gross.
I'm not celebrating billionaire expenditures either. NASA does science, though, and is not a billionaire. The Artemis missions aren't a billionaire's idea. They are the product of scientific curiosity, and in this ultracapitalist hellscape, science and research still costs money.
Now to be fair, the program cost $93bil...but over 13 years (plus an additional $4.3bil over four launches). By comparison, ICE got $85bil in just a year, and the US DoW budget (because it sure isn't defense) is $175bil just for 2026; over 13 years, they'd be $1.1tril and $2.3tril, respectively. These missions are a drop in the bucket versus the kind of money they could be spending on science and social programs.
Could you spend $93+4bil on social programs? Absolutely. But I vote cutting the budgets of actively harmful departments first, whose budgets are 10-20x that of these scientific ones.
I remember people freaking out about the cost of the Curiosity rover, but it cost less than Mitt Romney's presidential campaign.
Who, in their right mind, gives a shit about humans traveling to the Moon? Not even landing. Just going and coming back. WTF?!?! Gotta prove that technology still works 55 years after? Bullshit.
Was it a "waste money" dartboard?
NOPE. Just failed and scaled back missions until the only thing left is completely useless, uninspiring, and bland. The Epstein Class can't get along for long enough to put together a space mission anymore. Just nazis, theft, and incompetence.
You want me to get excited about this? Fuck that twice.
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