but other scientists are not so sure.

Is it just me who thinks we should act as if it is going to collapse soon, even if a few scientists aren't sure?

TL;DR: New statistical model suggests that the AMOC (including gulf stream) could collapse to the much slower pattern by 2025 to 2095. This is a century earlier than previous predictions and the researchers were concerned. There is some questions on the accuracy of the model used, and that needs more research.

Personally I don't think we should wait for further testing to vet the model before acting. Try to do better now.

We could try to vote people who will take action OR incentivize consumers to be more proactive BUT. Neither is ever going to happen.

I was having dinner with my brother's family and we were watching an interview with some celebrity that my sister-in-law adores. Dude is heavy in green activism and lists fast food places which are bad actors for climate and also farmers rights, etc. So my SiL announces we are never eating at such and such place again (I can't remember, I never eat fast food anyway). The very next night they order takeout from said fast food place. They also always order same day deliver from Amazon despite it never actually arriving same day, but they get packages every damn day. Tons and tons of packaging for crap they always throw out or give away to neighbors eventually. This isn't unique to them.

This is MOST of America and I suspect the rest of the developed world. We are effed.

Well that’s pretty scary.. I mean, at least the scientists say that it’s more likely the current will just slow down rather than completely collapse? But then again, all the climate change models predicted a much more conservative timeline on when we would be experiencing the effects of climate change than what is actually happening in the real world now.. so idk, scary shit man ☹️

Goodbye Iceland my old friend.

AMOC - Atlantic meridional overturning circulation

I made a poster about this for an assignment when I was primary school, like 18 years ago. Ffs

Title gore.

As long as we finally get colder weather and snow in Germany again, I'm all for it. No, not really because it's horrible but I try to see the positive things.

If anyone wants to read more about AMOC, here is a description from NASA along with the NASA illustration that was in the article:

June 5, 2023

BRIEF: As the ocean warms and land ice melts, ocean circulation — the movement of heat around the planet by currents — could be impacted. Research with NASA satellites and other data is currently underway to learn more.

Edit: climate.nasa.gov is fantastic for this kind of stuff, btw. They have tons of data from their satellites you can download, visualizations, videos, charts, graphics, tutorials...just all sorts of things. It's very cool.

I can remember a time when elon musk was still saying smart things... like if there's even a 1% chance of it destroying the planet. We should do everything to avoid it.

did we see this movie already?

insert meme of sitting inside house burning down "this is fine"