People would be more excited for SpaceX missions, if it wasn't owned by a Nazi pedophile lover.
After the 100th launch to put more junk in orbit, it not only gets boring but it's also annoying knowing how much crap is being put into the sky.
I'd guess after the 50th or so launch to the moon that people would be less interested as well.
50? We didn't get past 6 crewed landings the first time.
It's true, it became mundane to people after the first couple of Apollo launches from what I've read. While I am genuinely interested in space exploration and colonization in the long term, I also think we have to focus on building a resilient existence on our home world, before we destroy it for ourselves.
Even to the space crowd, SLS doesn’t really introduce anything new.
But when the Falcon 9 landed, and then the heavy’s dual landing. That was hype.
I forgot that yeah, part of the hype was the re-useable rockets and their landing, which wasn't going new places, but was doing something new.
somehow, I'm completely indifferent.
I love science, and space, put in 1000s hours in Kerbal Space Program. followed space news though all my life. but now? with all that's going on. A genocide perpetrated by a country claiming it's for me, the US has become a fascist hell hole, rights are eroding so fast... I genuinely don't care about this anymore.
if it was a few years ago I would me following with exhalted breath. I would have taken time off work, and taken the kids off school to follow it, and play KSP emulating the mission. and watch space movies. and YouTube videos about the mission and spaceship... I was a massive space nerd.
Can't care about one rocket on the moon when we are sending thousands of rollers to kill civilians
Epstein's on the Moon, whee.
Ok I’m going to be that guy who sounds like a musk fanboy but rest assured I fucking hate that Nazi. That said, people don’t care about spacex launches because they have become so routine as to be boring.in a historical context there came a point where people stopped caring about airplanes because they stopped crashing. This is good. Rockets becoming reliable enough to become boring and routine is a net gain for humanity. I just wish spacex weren’t owned by that goose stepping fascist
We stopped the space exploration shit on our own and I suspect the lack of interest in Artemis has less to do with Elon blowing rockets up, sending a car into space, and using it as another portal for him to be the biggest fucking government welfare grifter of all time... and more to do with the fact that a lot of us are stressed, starving, and/or worried about the near future.
The fuck does slingshotting around the moon do right now to help us? Does it bring pedophiles to justice? Does it give us hope? Nope. I was jealous that they got to leave this God forsaken burning bullshit planet for a few days.
Nothing good is happening at the moment. The bread is stale. We've all seen the circus shows.
I'm tired. I'm angry. I don't give a fuck about space.
Youngsters don't realize that people became fucking bored with the Apollo missions after 11. Apollo 13 generated some buzz because the crew was probably going to die, but that's it. Same thing happened with the space shuttle.
Well also personally I lost interest because I got sick of Elon time. I'm pretty sure by his estimate we were supposed to have megastructures by now.
It's also worth noting that reusable rockets are interesting but if they just go up deploy satellite and then come back down that's not very interesting compared to going to the moon.
I know SpaceX are supposed to be building a lunar lander but we've heard nothing about that for years now. Where is it, Artemis III is going to need it in less than a year. Have they even started construction?
I’m pretty sure by his estimate we were supposed to have megastructures by now.
This exactly. Musk has been talking ginormic shit for decades, and delivered peanuts. Destroying the USA in the process.
How good is the re-usability even going? That's the only plus I see wrt SpaceX.
The re-useability is also mainly a marketing point. It sounds cool on paper but SpaceX only reduces the cost by 10% discount when utilizing old boosters. The usefulness of cost savings is overblown.
The usefulness ... is overblown.
Ain't that the truth for everything E Musk produces.
And it could be so great, done properly.
He's giving electric cars and reusable rockets a bad rep actually.
Agreed. I think people need to understand that Musk isn’t a scientist, he’s just the money. The actual people working at SpaceX are doing great stuff.
It also helps that this one didn't explode immediately due to lazy fast-fail engineering, scattering billions of tax dollars across the landscape while a bunch of drunken tech dude-bros cheer.
Probably would’ve been cheaper, faster, and better engineered if they did though. The reason NASA doesn’t do it is PR.
NASA funding is dependent on public opinion (well it was until recently). Blowing up rockets gets people really upset when they think it's their tax dollars.
Somehow SpaceX has convinced people it's a private company and not funded by government contracts and taxes.
Blowing up rockets gets people really upset when they think it’s their tax dollars.
I love spaceflight and what the Artemis II accomplished, but it came with an absolutely staggering price tag. It cost a bit more than $50 Billion to design including both the rocket and the Orion capsule. It costs $1Billion each time it launches too. We only bought enough parts for 4 flights of the rocket, and we've now used 2 of those.
Because it’s not…? They get the contracts because they’re the cheapest option, and these days they make more money through Starlink anyways.
And who else should CRS have gone to? Lockheed Martin and Boeing?
I mean... If SoaceX had sent people around the moon, then I think the general public would have been interested in that.
I think it was more about the mission, not the org that made the craft.
SpaceX doesn't even send people into space itself. They mostly just send exploding debris into the ocean.
They're the main way of taking astronauts to the ISS.
Again you clearly are just completely ignorant on this entire topic, because Space X has the Dragon capsule, and sends regular crewed missions to the ISS.
Elon maybe a huge turd but I think the plan is to use spacex's propulsion systems when the mission will involve landing on the moon in future.
Does it? People used to get excited and SpaceX's achievements and milestones too, back when rockets weren't reusable yet. I think it has just become so routine now.
Also, there were humans on board. Also, moon.
Also, SpaceX and NASA both have teams of engineers (and some of them have worked for both).
To be clear: I'm not defending Elon here. I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of posts like these.
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People have been really hyped for space x, when they first landed a booster and now when they do test launches of Starship and when they caught the super heavy booster it was incredible.
People care about Artemis II because it's crewed spaceflight to the moon. Artemis I didn't get nearly as much attention.
By “people” you mean space nerds. But Artemis crossed over into the mainstream.
So did the starship launch, it was all over the news and randoms at my work were talking about it.
And the dual Falcon Heavy booster landing way back.
Back then the SLS programme seemed like the worst kind of wasteful mismanaged project that'll never fly and would be made obsolete by Starship before complete, these days I'm glad there's something left to cheer for since the only moral choice is to hope that everything SpaceX makes explodes on the pad.
Muskrat blows up 50 rockets for sport and puts air travel at risk for the lulz. SpaceX was initially interesting in that small vacuum of NASA activity, but nowhere in the same wheelhouse. All flash and no substance, like the rest of the tech bro industry.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Falcon 9 has the best launch record of any rocket ever. Its also vastly reduced the cost of rocket launches enabling space science to become accessible to way more people.
The booster recovery is still unmatched by anyone else and starship is a work of engineering magic and is still due to be the first ever fully reusable launch system.
I'd ask you what Musk's asshole tastes like, but I don't want to smell your breath.
Lmao, so because Im not blindly against Space X because Musk owns it that means I'm a Musk fanboy?
Does that mean anyone that means people that like the Artemis program like you are Trump fanboys since it was his administration that created it?
Trump's administration created NASA? That's news to me.
I mean one (if I'm remembering correctly) went further into space than any human has been thus far, the other is an interesting technical step to normalising space flight.
It'd be very weird if people were equally excited about both.
Honestly, I didn't know Artimus was happening. That's how busy the news is. I saw memes about astronauts and Outlook, assumed it was the ISS, and only when I saw the pictures of the Earth from the moon was I like "Wait, what? We have humans going to the moon right now? And they're already there? When did that happen?"
They're living out their dreams, and doing something very rare for our species, and I wouldn't recognize them if they were in line in front of me at the grocery store. Huh.
space x was always about space tourism, and to make money from starlink.
Why does this person think artemis (boeing) is a more communal mission than anything spacex does?
artemis (boeing)
Just for the clarity of the record:
So you've got four giant American defense contractors, and two European defense contractors owned by French, German, Spain, and Italy.
Maybe the communal part is the community of western defense contractors.
Probably because they went around the moon which is perceived as not for profit endeavour to further humanity, unlike SpaceX polluting space with its outrageous satellites. I'm aware that SLS is just a jobs programme, but despite that the whole premise of Artemis is a little more visionary.
No love to Elon but... SpaceX's primary business and goal has nothing to do with starlink, which is just a fundraising venture.
The goal has always been mars, with Starship and the superheavy launcher.
If they just wanted to put up starlink, the falcon 9 system is more than capable, hence why it is the most flown space launch platform in human history, by quite a large margin.
Also Musk is to SpaceX as Henry Ford is to the modern Ford motor corporation. He's locked out of pretty much all decisions, he's been locked out of the engineering decisions for years, and besides him buying and then reselling access like he did in ukraine he's not really involved.
I know Artemis has attracted people that haven't paid attention to space flight since the 1960s, but there's a reason the ISS is only going to use spacex capsules on the international side until it's decommissioned; and there's a reason why any on-moon missions are going to be pretty much just spaceX's vehicles; at least according to all NASA plans for the next decade.
SpaceX as Henry Ford is to the modern Ford motor corporation
A nazi with political connections who keeps dropping completely unworkable tasks onto competent engineers and administrators, and also lost the company a shitton of money because he couldn't stop disseminating nazi propaganda?
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. I assume it’s just because you aren’t saying “Elon bad”. What you said is accurate with the exception of the last part, because Blue Origin is also in the HLS (lunar lander) business now and there’s a decent chance theirs is ready first.
Despite the stink of Elon on SpaceX, I bet many of these same people will closely follow a Starship HLS lunar landing. It’ll still be cool.
SpaceX IS Artemis. At least a part of it. They were the first selected to provide the Human Landing System (the lunar lander). When the time comes for one of those to land humans on the moon, people will be excited. We just aren’t there yet.
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