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Let's hope it's actually true.

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[-] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

That's what they said a month ago, then they decided that 'remove copilot from notepad' meant 'rename copilot in notepad'.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 15 points 1 month ago

I remember reading that plan and being shocked about how good it sounded. And then they did the exact opposite of every single thing they promised, which I'm sure endeared themselves to all their enterprise customers.

So sure, I welcome Microsoft's attempts to finally drag itself back into relevancy, but they've got a massive self-inflicted foot wound that's gonna complicate matters.

[-] Bloefz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Well, when Microsoft finally admits they're wrong they usually backtrack well enough. Think windows 8/8.1

It was still an ugly pig with lipstick but the worst parts like the start screen were gone.

[-] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Wasn't 8.1 basically the same except the start button was back on the taskbar instead of hidden behind a weird gesture?

[-] Serious_Me@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago

Aww, and I finally just moved over to Linux.

[-] zikzak025@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

If you're happy on Linux, stay on Linux. This is Microsoft's "I can change baby, I swear" play. Just like they did after Windows 8. And Windows Vista. And Windows ME.

Surely they have learned their lessons and will never intentionally tank their product in the name of profit again. Surely this time.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Aww

More like "aww yeah"

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Just stay on Linux. Microslop won't actually fix anything.

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Lol. Me too. I mean, I've been running primarily Linux for decades, now this single press release will have me watching for Windows 13 with interest. (This is hopefully obviously sarcasm - meant only to give you a laugh and help you feel chill about whatever you do next.)

[-] Raptor_007@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

We’re truly better off where we are

[-] Solaris1220@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Say what you want about Microsoft, but at the very least, it seems to know when it needs to change course.

That has to be sarcasm, right?

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

*rename course.

There, fixed it. 😁

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

It doesn't say that it actually does. Just knows.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 10 points 1 month ago

the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive

Uh. I think I found the issue. A menu isn't even supposed to have various degrees of responsiveness.

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah. 60% more responsive for something infamous for taking multiple seconds to launch is depressingly bad. That's "not even trying" levels of improvement.

The start menu should open essentially instantly (excluding optional animations) – 100 ms is good, 200 ms is somewhat adequate. They're aiming for somewhere between 400 and 1200 ms.

I hope for them that they underpromise and overdeliver because this does not inspire confidence.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

For a menu to take longer than 200ms is ridiculous. At 500ms of wait for my menu to show, the OS is getting nuked.

As for the 'inspire confidence',when was the last time MS inspired anything that was not disgust? Excluding the C-suite and some investors, of course.

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 8 points 1 month ago

“Ok, ok, we hear you, no more copilot.

Meet: sidepilot.”

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 7 points 1 month ago

User: the updates keep breaking my system, I see AI and ads everywhere and stupid electron apps use all my RAM

MS execs: I know! Let's rewrite the start menu again!

[-] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

To be fair, using react for it was just an odd decision to begin with.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

Plot twist: They're gonna double down on vibe coding it.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

What ever happened to Windows 10 being the last OS you’d ever need?

[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

It is the last windows I needed.

[-] elvith@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

But it's true!

10 was the last one you needed. 11 and onwards is neither needed nor wanted. Also people are starting to realize the power of Linux (+Wine/Proton)

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 1 points 1 month ago

They couldn't cram as many ads as they wanted into it.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Who cares if it's true? Just ditch windows already

[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Exactly. Too fucking late.

I switched to Linux two years ago, never looked back and will never ever spend my own money on Microsoft products again. They violated my trust so I abandoned them.

[-] DishaweslemOride@lemmy.org 5 points 1 month ago

Maybe this time my abusive spouse won’t beat me. I just need to go home. They’ve changed. They promise.

[-] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Valve: We just gonna release linux-based gaming miniPC.

The rest of the market:

[-] sodalite@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago
[-] jobbies@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

'Say what you will about tech billionaires, but when their wrong they really know how to double down and lose their market share'...

[-] Monument@piefed.world 4 points 1 month ago

For one, the sources claim that the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive and notably more customizable.

Customizable for whom?
Users? Advertisers?

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Windows users will be soon, for the first time ever, able to put the task bar on any edge of the screen, imagine that for customization.

you could do that in XP I'm pretty sure. Can you not do that in 11?

[-] VeloRama@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

no more copilot: i'm the pilot now

[-] PushButton@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's real this time, like really, they meant it this time... Finally!

...

[-] jobbies@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

So Windows 11 Service Pack 2? Or just win11.1?

I think they should call it 'The Windows 11 Apology Tour'.

How MS is a still a thing and still turns a profit is beyond me.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Vendor lock in and government bribery.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Helping Israel commit genocide, for one.

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wow, a mysterious set of updates that'll fix everything, without any release date or explanation?

Yeah nah, it'll be great if it works out but something tells me it might just not. Taking on SteamOS.... Good luck with that.

[-] el_muerte@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

the sources claim that the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive

Oh good, that'll bring it all the way up to a third as responsive as the Windows 7 one was.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, it's not Windows fault. Microsoft has problems, needs to be fixed.

[-] morto@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

They could put a built-in linux installer

[-] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The nail in the coffin for me was, when I got an add for some copilot course shit, on Microsoft teams, (this was on my work pc btw) with notifications ringing everywhere btw, on a fucking business account (I am using Linux at my household, not fucking microslop). That was IT for me. How they have the audacity to do so, is beyond me.

[-] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

They figure once they have a captive audience, anything short of killing the hostage is fair game.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Did y’all miss this past week where they disabled their flagship egg-basket for 1.5 billion people on purpose?

Yeah they made Copilot chromium-browser only for about 5 days. On purpose. Or, the less charitable version is they just rolled out a bug that broke things for a massive amount of people, kept the news reports down, and waited a week before being convinced that was a Dumb As Fuck move.

Everyone has to learn this in their own ways but tech people always get there eventually: microsoft is, and always has been, awful.

It’s like learning HP printers are awful.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

To be fair old HP laserjets are still good printers 20 years later.. Newer models? Trash

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

I had an HP laser printer pre 2000, the thing was built like a tank and just always worked

[-] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

I had to buy a printer recently to replace a used one from the 90's that I'd been happily using for the past decade, and decided to go with a fairly new laser brother printer. I plugged it in and, magically, it really did just work, even on Linux.

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