This is such a huge W for linux. It legitimizes linux as a real competitor in so many eyes.
That's because it is a legitimate competitor. It's the freedom OS, and only way for the world to escape Americas big tech fascism.
Yeah I know I've been using it for gaming for years. But when I say linux is good people might brush it off because oh you would say that as a linux user. But im highlighting that Microsoft saying this legitimizes Linux in a completely different way. It legitimizes it for all the people that see Windows as the best OS the people outside the linux bubble.
There is no greater force in the world than how glass half full Linux users can be, makes me so proud.

I really want to see more GNI/Linux and Tux GIF's/Images made to see out in the wild like this
If you made this you are a goat!
Microsoft adds the bloat themselves, and ever increasing telemetry reporting back, promises to update W10 for the lifetime of the device, reneges on it with W11 quoting security as its rationale but leaving 400 million users without security updates. Does all this at a time Linux is becoming very friendly and android phones have a desktop mode so they can be plugged into a keyboard and monitor and bypass the need for Windows. Microsoft has a bit of a think about the market value of its idiot direction and decides to remove a lot of the crap slowing the OS and give people back a little privacy, touts it as a new way of thinking about personal computing.
I'd say i'm cautiously optimistic but honestly i'm just not optimistic. They want to 'remove bloat, reel back AI, etc' and I'm just going to ask "how?"
how can they possibly improve their OS when the past year updates to 11 have been the worst in the companies history. the past few months alone have been an absolute cluster fuck and that's saying A LOT considering this the same company that gave us ME and Vista.
Before rebuilding the OS they need to take a seriously look internally and rebuild teams, management, etc because its' clear as day the company that they have currently cannot produce the potential OS they seem to want to produce.
You mention Windows Me and Vista as low points but Windows 8 was such a donkey that your memory must have blocked it so you could go on with your life. And you just know this wonderful new streamlined and privacy conscious version is going to look suspiciously like Windows 7 which most users wanted to stick with anyway.
You mention Windows Me and Vista as low points but Windows 8 was such a donkey that your memory must have blocked it so you could go on with your life.
Good lord you're right. I had completely forgotten about 8. I know I had it, I must have had it but I don't actually remember using it. It's like a gap there between 7 and 10 that is just gone from my head.
Microsoft is reportedly looking at Valve's SteamOS as the benchmark for gaming
Yeah, that's Linux
Valve's SteamOS continues to show significant advantages over Windows 11 for gamers, with better memory utilization and improved in-game performance, but Microsoft has a plan to combat that.
Let that sink in for a second. Linux with a not-an-emulation layer API runs Microsoft Windows games faster than Microsoft Windows, and so now Microsoft is scrambling to get windows at least as efficient again as Linux in running Windows products.
Anyone ever trusting Microsoft again is a dumbass fool
Rather than a dedicated release (or update) for Windows 11, project K2 is Microsoft's effort to maintain high quality across current and future versions of the OS, prioritizing consistency, and ultimately win back the trust of users.
This reads as a big nothing. So they’re going to focus on making quality software now? Can I ask where that ranked on their priority list prior and where does it rank with ‘project K2’? Something tells me it’s somewhere in the double digits still. But it’s an ‘effort’ now!
I don't even care what they do at this point, they've proved themselves to be so incompetent that I have no desire to go back to windows.
should just use the Linux kernel and pit their version of the desktop on top of that.
The only value windows has is that it runs software made by companies that are too lazy to add another build target
I'm imagining Microsoft taking it all the way and when you buy a Win13 license key, it basically installs a custom theme in KDE Plasma or maybe Cinnamon.
It might be worse for their profits long term than sticking with their locked down bullshit, but it's kind of funny to think that they would first make billions of dollars of sales on their linux distro.
There you are, racking up multi kills, bonus points are pouring in. The map is yours and you are about to push the score back in favour of your team…
When all of a sudden
“DO YOU WANT TO TURN ON STICKY KEYS? PWEASE LOGIN TO ONEDRIVE TO ACTIVATE YOUR 365 COPILOT ACCOUNT SUBSCRIPTION. ACTIVATING BITLOCKER LOCKDOWN.”
Reducing ai but not removing it ain’t it
They'll either never do it, or do it for a year or so then go back to being pieces of shit.
Also expect this:
"hey windows is better"
yeah? Is it this good?
"well, no, but..."
This has been their MO for time immemorial. Make windows shit, right up to the line where people will leave. Only discover where the line actually is after they've stepped over it, then backpedal just enough to stem the exodus and keep people locked in. Repeat.
Get rid of telemetry, ads, AI, and the MS account requirement for a start.
Of course not.
Install Linux, Problem Solved.
Help others switch then the problem is fully solved
Strip out all tracking, anti-competitive anti consumerist features, remove all AI, make it secure and with all of the extra and fancy features opt-in.
Literally just make a decent, respectable operating system, and you will win. This is how you win at literally anything right now. Just make it durable and private and secure and not extremely expensive and make sure it WORKS, and people will suck your dick from across the planet.
NOBODY WANTS AI OR MICROTRANSACTIONS OR TO BE PUSHED AROUND OR CONNED, YET THAT'S ALL ANYBODY IS DOING - THE POSITION OF NOT A PIECE OF SHIT IS LITERALLY UP FOR GRABS, YOU JUST NEED TO REACH OUT AND TAKE IT.
Hilarious. Nobody goes through the trouble of achieving multiple monopolies just to give people what they want.
Yeah, it's starting to look as though their monopoly is not as secure as they'd assumed, so they might bend a bit, for a while.
I hope they don't do all of this. I just want them to lose you know.
I will preface by saying, I hate it so much, and fear the day we can no longer put TPM into 'user mode' and enroll our own keys for our own signed & authorized OS (on hardware we own, in our house, not in th cloud), BUT if you are building an operating system focused on gaming, performance, and security, implementing and securing trusted + measured boot so the hardware platform ensures all stages of the bootloader, OS + game are the exact code the vendor intended is the absolutely correct way to implement anti-cheat. Sketchy 3rd party kernel mode modules that rummage around your system reporting what to who knows who wouldn't be needed at all in this environment.
MS... The only reason why I still ise it is because I don't have the time or nerves to get used to Linux in my current life.
Getting and understanding the workarounds I need to get working just to play my two favorite games that don't run on Linux is not something I will use my time on.
I need a plug and play windows clone on Linux that runds everything I know out of the box, sadly.
People here won't like that, but it's the reality gate that keeps many people aeay from switching.
Well, if MS ever tries to force me into ID verification or subscription windows or based on AI at its core I'll bite the bullet. But not before
Consider giving Zorin OS a shot. Their particular distro is purpose-built to allow for easy migration away from Windows, into a Windows-like Linux environment. No terminals, and they make it easy to install and run .exe files. Their $50 pro edition includes some technical support as well.
Personally, I am waiting for SteamOS Desktop to release. Once that happens, I will be comparing CachyOS, Zorin OS, and SteamOS to decide which best suits my power-casual life.
I abandoned Windows for Linux rather than update to Windows 11. I will be interested to see what Microsoft does, but at this point I seriously doubt they're going to be able to give me a good enough reason to return to Windows as my primary OS. At this point I only need it for a few applications that don't have a Linux equivalent and don't run on Wine.
Have you tried to Winboat the apps missing ?
I also switched earlier this year to cachyos. I'm definitely not going back. The simple fact that I need to boot the Windows old partition to update it makes me anxious.
I feel so much more in control of my operating system it feels really nice.
Winboat looks really interesting. How does it compare to just using WinApps? It seems like it's basically just doing the heavy lifting for setting programs up, yeah?
It's very similar. I found WinApps to be quite flaky, where WinBoat feels much more solid. However, a nice feature of WinApps is the ability to set the Windows apps as the default file type, and you can open files from the right click > Open With, which you can't do with WinBoat. Not that I've found, anyway.
I know it's not possible for everyone, but I just cut ties with any application that wouldn't work on Linux and found alternatives.
For those that can't, it's worth it to go 99% Linux and set up a dual-boot. Also I made a video recently that details some security measures you can take on Windows to help you stay private if anyone's interested.
This sounds like a very good thing, right? They've got the message that we don't want Copilot, we don't want AI, we don't want our computers to require an Internet connection, and they're listening.
Knowing Microsoft, the new project is an update to DirectX which has features impossible for Proton to translate without violating anti-circumvention laws or an always on DRM baked into core features.
Section 1201(f) of the DMCA allows for interoperability; I’m sure Valve’s lawyers will figure it out
They could also do the Nintendo thing and plaster their trademarked name all over critical functions or interfaces and then sue anyone who tries to re-write their software, since you still have to handle calls to the MicrosoftTMOfficialDirectX13Windows_draw() function. Using a registered trademark without permission violates a different set of laws.
This would be fair use. Has already been decided https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_Inc.
Arguably the trademark issue has not been exactly resolved but I think this case will be very persuasive.
Yeah, MS lost a lot of trust with stupid things and getting that back - good luck with that. ~~I'm gone~~ I switched to Linux ~~since~~ a year (been on Windows since 3.0) or so ago and won't ever go back even though I still need to run Visual Studio in a virtual guest.
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