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Tbf, they did get Russia epic wrong
In Stalingrad.
Sometimes I think I’m not caught up with all the new lingo. Then I see someone use the phrase “epic wrong” in the year 2026 and I feel a little bit better.
Also, fuck these idiots.
That's not new lingo, Chris Chan is a literally insane "internet famous" bad person. The person asking him about national socialism is a troll.
100% right. The most documented human ever to exist in history!
Sometimes I wonder if the dude who was operating that animatronic bear ever learned the butterfly effect impact of him getting some weird sonic obsessed kid's name wrong in 1992
Hold on, animatronic bear?
Leonard Bearstein Symphony Orchestra. That is all you get from me. Chris Chan is a cognitohazard and I refuse to directly link you directly to the cwcki.
Non-zero chance it's an elon alt
This is literally Chris Chan's account isn't it? That racist, sexist, autistic, predatory, mentally ill, trans, mother fucking lolcow.
Lumping in trans people with racist/sexist/predatory/mentally ill people, are we?
what
Are you unaware of who Chris Chan is?
We all do. Listing "trans" and "autistic" in the middle of a list of abhorrent traits/behaviors they have/committed is a blatant indicator of transphobia regardless of who we're talking about.
Your just coming across as morally the equivalent of a Nazi defender, because they are trans they can't also be a racist, sexist Nazi? Who is a horrid person and should be banned from the internet and likely locked in a jail cell?
They are saying that they dislike that the Nazi being trans/autistic is being mentioned at all, it's not relevant to their "being horrible"-ness even if those labels technically apply, so since the list of things they are described by has so many horrible things,it seems to imply that those are the things by which they should be hated for,not just generic descriptive labels, which is why seeing those two specific non horribleness defining traits stand out. I don't really care but just trying to clarify. ILYSM
Couldn't have said it better myself. @Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world
Thanks :3
No, you were pretty clear in what you said. Not sure why people upvoted that explanation instead of yours.
Taking all the misgendering here into account too, this shit is like calling Jesse Lee Peterson the N-word and defending oneself by saying that because he is a horrible person it's okay to do so.
So, now "trans" and "mentally ill" and "autism" are derogatory labels comparable to racial slurs?
Oh dear.
Do you realize how insulting that is to everyone with autism and mental illness, and trans for that matter?
Sometimes I take a second and remember everyone is allowed equal access to typing comments. Which is a good thing even though that includes some of the worst/most toxic people. Imagine the reaction if/when confronted by someone with actual ill intent. Having been covered in a bubble of non reality is gonna prove so detrimental.
someday we’ll all “get wrecked” in one way or another
the struggles matter less than what we choose to make of them
I wasn't strictly talking about lumping in "trans" and "autistic" with all those qualities. I said including the misgendering. That's the source for the analogy. And the only defense that seems to be there for this behavior is "She's a horrible person" which yes, we fucking know, thanks.
There's nothing stopping gay, trans or other minorities from also being awful shit people who deserve to rot in jail.
Hell there's even this fun concept where people weaponize the fact they are in a minority group as a way to attack others or to try to protect themselves from retaliation for horrid acts they do.
Chris chan is in fact a racist sexist predatory mentally ill trans person.
Lumping in would be saying “all people who defend trans folx have a tendency to defend all trans folx” (even if there is a specific perhaps indefensible individual some people are wanting to “defend” on the mere basis that they are trans) such as you may be doing in this thread [Edit: surely that must part of my misinterpretation fas I initially took the tone of your reply saying how “being trans is not relevant to this person’s behavior” as being in some way in defense of the controversial mystery person’s behavior or online presence, which is not actually what was happening perhaps, and maybe I was too wrapped up in some kind of perverse radicalization narrative that I thought might have been happening as sometimes does with some of those cult followings that can sometimes be widely online, and often exchange with people in bad faith to thrive off of continuations of controversy ]
I saw no EXPLICIT “lumping in”, by either you or chippy in the comments above. they chose to include that descriptor maybe as a subtle way to associate this Chan person with other transitioned people, but I don’t think “lumping in” is the exact words I would think to use in such a statement of (biased, but not universalizing) selection of descriptors
an example how Chippy could have been EXPLICITLY “lumping in” would be if he had just included a word like “another” (xyzfghpqrs [insert negatively stigmatized descriptor here] + trans person) to show that he feels the traits are typically aligned (lumped)
I’m coming at this from the perspective that all stigmas are rooted in fear, short-sighted self-interest, or attachment to a particularly limited scope of ontology used in one’s view of the world or themselves which cannot accept new aspects of the reality they exist in. So imo stigmatizing for example racist people (hardest to defend so good example) does nothing to defeat racism because they are being proven right (that such an issue is worth fighting over) when one tries fighting a person over their racism. It’s like any phobia: exposure therapy can work but shame often pushes people further from owning their own thoughts and behaviors and into safer frameworks or circles where less effort is needed to survive such an ontological (I hope I’m using this word correctly I just learned what it means last week…) restructuring of their sense of self/values/meaning in their mortal life.
and lastly, if you are the one inserting the word “another” to the statement in your own head, then maybe the best place to start working on transphobia would be to ask why you felt the need to insert that slight tweak to the statement, and how such a subversion of someone else’s verbiage might have served your ego or confirmed your worldview in some way, and perhaps why that could be what has happened
This is some JP-level philbro bullshit I had never thought I would see on Lemmy. 5 people fell for it though so congrats. Also very nice of you to share some of your more simplistic ideas right here.
"It's just a joke bro" type of shit. Do the attack helicopter one too, quick, while everyone is laughing 🤡
you’re not wrong lol. are you for or against the “/s” construct anyways (?) because in my opinion, it feels like a shitty thing to even dare to do, considering how covert narcissism is basically founded on that type of humor of gaslighting some of the people they are interacting with into thinking that they have thought about some type of feeling (deep, personal, vulnerable, challenging, or dissenting) on a deeper level and are just using “ironic” statements to try and remain relevant to the issue/topic without doing the internal work of even processing the questions posed by the original statements which might seem puzzling to readers/listeners upon first impressions, but if one could take enough careful time to think them through or piece them together, might be able to come up with actually much more meaningful takeaways from even simpler statements, pieces of art, or expressions more generally.
Lotta words to explain how you're DEFINITELY not transphobic 😒
No this bad person happens to be trans or at least claim to be.
Even when treated exactly the same as everybody else, it's not good enough for you.
Let's put her on a throne and crown her, shall we? She can be your queen
I used several of their many descriptors, you zeroed in on that one. All of the labels I listed apply to this individual. Being trans in particular is a huge part of their personality and expression online. So its relevant and appropriate to include. If you choose to interpret that in the way you seem to be, you're wrong and really trying hard to find a way to be offended. If you want to champion/defend trans people thats noble and I believe you should. However this person isn't the particular hill you want to die on trying to defend.
You chose to list "trans" and "autistic" in the middle of a list of abhorrent behaviors/traits about Chris. Get real.
Leaving things borderline unambiguous like this is how transphobes speak. If you're not, I don't recommend mirroring them. 🤷🏼♀️
You can choose the impact of the statement, I know it's intent. As would any reasonable person who is familiar with this individual. You're defending a person who uses those labels as a defense for predatory behavior. They RAPED their own mother and successfully used autism as a defense in court to get the charges dropped. They also have a very shaky history as to why they identify as trans (believing lesbians would be more accepting and they'd have an easier time finding a girlfriend, as well as an easier way to deflect hate). I do believe they are probably genuinly trans but it murky and absolutely 100% part of the story as is autism.
I'm not defending Chris. I'm pointing at transphobic commentary. Get over yourself.
Leaving things borderline unambiguous like this is how transphobes speak. If you're not, I don't recommend mirroring them.
You're ignoring context and nuance as a way to be offended. You're the one that needs to get over yourself lmfao.
The context being? A. The person is behaving in an abhorrent way B. The person is identifying as trans C. A & B
Which is it?
Funny when a person acts badly, some people always have to bring up additional labels.
They're bad, and gay. They're bad, and a Jew. They're bad, and a muslim. Etc.
You are just showing your own bigotry. Lmfao.
The labels factually have been and are likely currently being used by the individual to commit predatory behavior in this specific case. Which is all I'm talking about. They used the fact that they are trans as a shield when they engaged in posting non consensual sexual drawings of irl people they knew. As well as floating the idea of becoming trans in order to sleep with women and avoid criticism. They used being autistic as a successful legal tactic to skirt a sex crime in the rape of their mother. You're saying these should be omitted when talking about them though? Because bringing it up would be bigotry?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repression_(psychoanalysis) [what is the point in sharing wikipedia links again? I forgot]
And I wouldn't recommend defending Chris chan who is a horrid person who uses their labels to attack others and to hide from repercussions.
It makes you look like a biggot.
If you think identifying transphobia is to defend Chris, you're the problem.
Please explain why or how this identifying of transphobia is not directly an attempt to defend Chris, IN THIS CONTEXT, to someone who is autistic, or who may even suffer from some obstinent defiant disorder. FYI: Some people aren't hardwired for policing others' verbiage or for having their own language "policed", and I think that you are using your best methods you know, but tone of a written message often comes across in whatever way is most convenient to a given reader, which is what I think might be contributing some to the source of the problem (in this miscommunication). Could you format your statement that went along the lines of "don't mirror transphobic language if you don't want to appear transphobic" in a way that uses the words "should" and "if" in the same sentence? I find often that such a structure can address matters of internal perspective without presenting an imposing presence to the conversation or dialogue.
I didn't even say their name, dude
ok fair enough. i’ve come around to seeing that they way Chippy had initially phrased the gripe had come across as not only transphobic but dementophobic, autism-phobic (didn’t learn this word yet), “predator”-phobic (I think this is a widespread phenomenon for valid seeming reasons), and lolcow(I don’t think I will even look this one up tbh)-phobic as well (by the nature of the implications of choosing to include such descriptors in the first place). I’m just sorry that I had come across as so combative while working to improve my language interpretation skills and conflict avoidance strategies for future discussions with people who have perspectives which seem to not be reconciling with each other on their own.
Seriously thank you anyways for taking the time to keep replying even though you feel that for some reason because I have trouble understanding gender identity that would mean that I also assuredly want to “drill baby drill” (for oil) or enforce the killing of babies or disenfranchisement of mothers at risk of losing their children for medical (or other) complications through the use of the violent rules of backwards laws [or support the use of AI for writing, researching, or creating related tasks, for that matter]. I think it might be a bit worthwhile for each of us to continue opening our minds up to new levels of deficiency or ignorance and to continue working with the tools we are capable of accessing and taking ownership of, to help those around us who seem to be explicitly intending or promoting harmful or otherwise shortsighted actions or beliefs which could hold back the development and rebalancing of the systems of nature we depend on throughout our world as well as the internal drives and doubts which shape our subconscious perspectives or intuitions.
I genuienly thought they were not allowed to use the internet anymore.
Like literally. After they went to jail.
So they used to think they were a moderate to now understanding they're ideologically aligned with nazis? Just not Russian nazis?
Guess where /pol went
Wait... you mean the nazi bar has nazis‽ whoda thunk
this post was submitted on 06 May 2026
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