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TranscriptTitle text: This is how you all fucking sound

[A smug tech bro wearing a sideways cap, watch, chain around his neck stands in front of a data center by a lake with dead fish. A smoke stack blows pollution into the air]

Tech bro: AI is already here, there’s no going back.

[A smug man in a suit with cigarette in hand stands in a restaurant while two disgruntled diners cough from the smoke]

Suit: Smoking indoors is already here, there’s no going back.

[A smug man in a top hat and suit stands in a factory with two sad and dirty children]

Hat: Child labor is already here, there’s no going back.

[A smug plantation owner stands in front of a field with with two angry slaves]

Plantation owner: The Atlantic Slave trade is already here, there’s no going back.

Still Vreni on Bluesky

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[-] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Thats not how it works.

A better example would be "nuclear arms are already here, theres no going back"

Its not a capitalism thing, its an arms race thing.

Once one country starts making nukes you cant stop everyone from following suit to protect themselves.

Same goes for AI, once one country starts doing it, everyone else is gonna need to keep up so they dont lose the arms race.

[-] Bleys@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Except 90% of what people talk about when they refer to AI is LLMs which have no direct military applications other than vague productivity boost claims. You could say the same thing about sending kids to the mines, “our society is more productive sending kids to dig out coal instead of playing. If we don’t send our kids to the mines China will and then we’ll really be behind”.

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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, but at least at the end of the day you can use nukes to blow stuff up. Presumably your enemies.

If your enemies win the generative AI "arms" race they can use it to, uh...

???

(Yes, I am aware there are military/governmental applications for neural net learning technologies but they're the types of pattern recognition and signals analysis stuff we already do without needing to build a football stadium sized datacenter every 50 miles and burn the entire nation's GDP on electricity generation. Most of the other applications appear to revolve around a regime using it solely to shoot themselves in the foot, e.g. powering a fantasy army of likely to be highly defective murder robots or using it to propagandize at and spy upon their own population in order to ensure a ready supply of destabilizing internal dissent always exists.)

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

LLMs are not the final state of AI

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[-] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

They can use it to do a lot of things. AI is far from perfect and makes all sorts of weird mistakes, but so do people. Arguably there's substantially more value in training inexperienced humans to get better in their fields than in settling for AI as a cheap alternative that starts with a maybe slightly higher or similar but cheaper baseline, but that doesn't eliminate all value they create. You can make arguments about the long term benefits socially or for individual organizations that leverage AI, but spend a couple hours playing with Claude and it becomes extremely evident that they're not anything resembling useless.

Even if we completely throw chat bots out the window, there are some instances of general utility for thinking models. This comic is making a moral argument that's more compelling, but arguing that they're actually totally useless doesn't really reflect reality

[-] ThisSeriesIsFalse@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

As someone who's used Claude and most other big LLMs as part of my job, they're all absolutely useless. They don't have the capacity for thought or care, all they are is a word generation algorithm similar to Cleverbot. So you can't rely on them for useful information, you can't rely on them for remembering info you told them, half the time it feels like talking to a brick wall (because you essentially are), and their only actual value is to CEOs as something they can blame layoffs on, even when it's bullshit.

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[-] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 1 points 1 week ago

Even before there was an atomic weapon, the utility, the effectiveness, of atomic weapons was never in doubt.

"AI" isn't like that.

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Reminds me of when the stupid "Web 3.0" made up by blockchain freaks was supposed to be the future. Not every technology will be as widespread as the internet. The internet facilitates communication across the entire world and offers many advantages over phone, mail, and other forms of communication.

The use cases and advantages are clear, even if there was an overly eager hype cycle in the 90s. AI might have some uses, but a clear advantage has not actually been established yet, nor have the legal challenges been ironed out. Remember that the current iteration of AI would not have been possible without breaking tons of IP law, slurping up as much data as possible.

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It's comparing apples to oranges.

AI is software. We never stopped any software change before. Even heavily disliked and banned systems like crypto currency or vpns etc. still exist.

For the record I agree that AI needs more regulation and we could even force stop development of new models but LLMs will never be stopped in any meaningful way. You can take an open source model and run it today.

LLMs are here to stay until it's replaced by other technology.

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

AI is software. We never stopped any software change before.

Good point, hard to stop something that has near zero cost of copying (see also 'piracy')

Which is why techbros are trying to put a moat around it with 'datacentres' . Problem is, as the tech advances, it keeps getting smaller. QWEN 3.6 27B can run fine on a 16GB video card and if you give it more time it'll be as 'smart' as bigger models. Doesn't have as much world knowledge as the bigs, but for many usecases that's irrelevant.

Really, 'datacentres' are more about stealing compute from the masses so they can rent it back, with control.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You may have a good point here that changed my opinion on datacenter opposition. We definitely need more datacenter compute and always will but maybe making it more difficult can shift the market towards on device compute or smaller servers so opposing datacenters can be a net good outcome.

[-] einkorn@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

Thing is: All of the examples still exist to various degrees.

And just like them AI is not going to vanish. Even more so than the others because AI is information. It's like trying to ban E2E: The genie is out of the bottle.

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[-] aGenitalBreeze@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well to be fair to the giant pieces of shit in positions of power all over the states they are trying to bring child labor back as well

I'd bet good money it's the same people fighting to keep child marriage.

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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

I feel like this comic is bait

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Except child and slave labour was cheap and profitable. AI is neither cheap nor profitable.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I am more mad about people saying "it's improvng exponentially." The rate of improvement is falling, if anything.

Bunch of people said it because sci-fi made them believe so, and then everyone else went along with it for some reason.

Either the exponent is 1/2 or people are just having shared delusions.

[-] Carnelian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Asbestos is already in all the buildings, we can’t remove it. All the cars already require leaded gasoline, we can’t unlead it.

Fun fact I didn’t know until recently: if you have a classic car that requires leaded gasoline, they actually sell lead substitute that you mix with modern unleaded gas

[-] canniest_tod@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

None of those things were new technology. The assembly line didn't go away when people were angry about being laid off.

If you're talking about a specific product of AI ("art" for example), you might want to make that clearer. If you're talking about AI in general, you're treating this one thing like it's a reason to try turning back the clock.

The rational thing to do would be getting politically involved to get AI out of corporate ownership.

[-] Fuckswearwords@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

As much as I hate ai/llm's, here we're conflating new technologies with bad practices. This is a fallacy.

However much we hate llm's they definitely aren't going away anytime soon. You can't make laws or policies to make ideas/technologies go away.

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[-] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Anyone who is impressed with LLMs to the point they believe they should in any way be mistaken for intelligence must be summarily ignored and excluded from decision processes which affect anyone not similarly impaired.

LLMs are only AI as Accelerators and Amplifiers of Ignorance and Incompetence, with vanishingly scarce examples of Iteration and Insight.

[-] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

LLMs might be garbage but the children yearn for the mines. And are we really better as a civilization for the loss of indoor smoking while indulging the all-you-can-eat option at Sizzler?

[-] Scrogu@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Worst analogy ever. Compare AI to the cotton gin or semiconductors or railroad. There usd no going back on things that increase productivity. Only forward.

[-] Ogy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Explain why globally we cut back on nuclear power please? How does this fit into your argument?

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