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What stereotypes? I have never heard someone say that
Bullies say that kind of stuff.
Largely comes from shit heads who use open VC, especially on FPS games, to say heinous shit, given that it’s pseudonymous and they’re not likely to face real consequences from it.
It’s less of a thing these days simply because the novelty has worn off and pseudonymity is less of a protection than it used to be, since a bad reputation in an online community actually means something if you spend a lot of time there.
But, a loud obnoxious idiot shouting slurs or spamming them in text chat tends to paint a whole community in a bad light, creating the stereotype.
A couple years ago it was a meme of calling the n word the gamer word. I think this was caused by some streamers at the time saying the word on stream. Connotations of it being the gamer word.
G unit?
Gamergate?
Isn't it much more than a stretch to call those dickbags a stereotype of gamers? It was like 4 people. Unless I misunderstood the term "playa" or something..
It was much more then just 4 people. More of a case of a vocal minority but it also shaped my perception of Gamers and made me disengage from almost all Gamer^TM^ spaces apart from News.
From my quick read through of their methods it seems like they didn't account very well for the types of games, platforms and demographics. The decade in question saw a massive explosion of gaming as a hobby into the mainstream and, importantly, a strong growth of women in the gaming population.
So as a whole you have games becoming more mainstream to younger ("woke") audiences and more accessible while the inclusive-biased demographics also blew up. It's not at all shocking that you'd find more inclusivity there.
A much more interesting study would be separating the gamers from the Gamers. Show me how people playing Splatoon and Animal Crossing compare to the neckbeards living in LoL and HoI4...
This is obviously just my experience but the younger generation is not inclusive at all, kind of the opposite. At least around the north east US where I have lived.
I work in a kitchen. I often have food runners, hosts and dishwashers who are under 18. They're extremely uncool sometimes.
Not universally for sure, Gen-Z men are especially problematic. But the sweaty dudes have become a minority of gamers, and I would expect broad-stroke "gamer" world views to reflect the influx of other demographics.
That's what I'd like to see more of in this research. Cut it by age cohort, gender, income, genres of game, years in the hobby, etc...
Yeah.
Kids are jerks. They’re naive. I certainly was; I think that’s always been a thing, though I can’t comment on how much worse or better it’s gotten.
That's true I was a shithead
Or mobile games, which is the bulk of gamers now.
In almost 50 years of playing D&D I've found that gamers tend to be more accepting of just about anybody than the general public is. I think it's partly because the gamer population itself gets more than its share of being spurned by that public.
let me point you all in the right direction: people in general are more inclusive than the general public is led to believe
I play a lot of multiplayer games and I find that gaming constantly teaches me that no matter what, it always comes down to the quality of the community.
Every other aspect of design is a comparatively merely a detail.
A well designed game plants the seeds for that. E.g. trying to avoid toxicity by removing chat vs supporting community hosted/moderated servers.
Just don’t hang out with Madden or COD players and you’re probably fine :D
Also LoL players.
For such a dull community they sure bitch about toxicity the most.
All the people who complain about games being woke don't play any games.
they probably play call of duty or similar...
And they're butthurt about somewhat woke fanfic of their beloved game.
Chasing that diamond in league.
Who am I kidding, they're chasing silver.
Nah they couldn't get to silver so now they play TFT.
Metal heads and punks are also really inclusive despite society viewing them otherwise.
and despite a tiny but vocal minority of them being bigoted assholes (for metalheads at least, don't know enough about punks)
every group of humans has a subset of bigoted assholes. dont hold it against them unless they are tolerated by the majority.
Punks are always having to run off Nazis who want to come to their shows.
Might be just my anecdotal experience but that seems to be the case for basically any group of people. Edit: typos
Yeah, really good point. I'd say it's a bit peculiar with metalheads, since it's a culture that revolves around dark and violent themes, so it makes its bigoted members a bit more visibly harsh or extreme, than other musical (or not) cultures. But this is just me nitpicking, you hit right in the center.
Agreed. Most people, generally, tend to be good individually. We recognize we're all humans. We all get hungry, we all love, we all struggle.
It's the vocal minority that are bigoted and utilize DARVO just like rapists and billionaires 🤷♂️. They very well may be on a sociopathic spectrum and/or have devolved by losing empathy, which humans evolved to build society and community and thrive together.
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Direct link to the study: https://www.psycnet.org/doi/10.1037/ppm0000672
Unfortunately, its paywalled, but I'd be curious about the methodology and population.
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Yeah, they are thinking of 2000s xbox live chat. It's been a while since then.
Not really, I'm thinking of literal unapologetic nazis on Steam, gamergate chuds on Twitter, incels on Reddit, mykittens on Discord and so on and so forth. Competitive games suffer from bigotry the most, but there's still plenty of casual "you aren't a real gamer if all you play is Sims/Stardew/Animal Crossing" aimed primarily at women, too. And of course it's currently the wave of nick fuentes type stains that freak out over anything even remotely "woke" that keeps the shitshow going, the GoW situation literally just took place.
However I do think that all of the above is strongly amplified by the outrage content farms, so I can believe when "The authors suggest that hostility might be driven by a vocal minority of players rather than the general gaming population. It is also possible that certain specific online communities reinforce exclusionary behavior, even if the average gamer holds progressive views."
Also the trash tends to stink the most.
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Maybe - hear me out here - engaging in stories tends to make you more empathetic? Movies, books, games, they all give you stories about other people. If you're shown how to imagine what it's like to be another person, you will probably end up being a better person.
Or whoa dude hear me out what if play and games has been around forever and is exactly an inclusive thing people do?
You literally cannot play a game without including someone
If someone calls you a slur, or whatever, in a game, chances are they don't care about the aspect of you they're badmouthing - they don't know you enough to care. To me, it's usually either saying shit just for the sake of it, or it's like a subconscious test of whether you have a stick up your ass, and if you actually get mad or offended, you've failed the test.
or you are playing a game that has a large and toxic playerbase, and not 100% gamers are great people, thus, you are talking to someone who is more of a normie than other gamers.
They do care a lot and that is why they are making their baby assault.
I just don't understand what it has to do with inclusivity? They will whine on anyone. Its extremely inclusive
It's just Asmeinkampf and his filth that give most of us a bad name being a loud minority.
Most gamers who play more than CoD and League tend to engage more with the medium and stories that are told, able to empathize with the characters and introspect upon our own lives, similar to any other form of art/media. Arguably, sometimes even on a deeper level given the interactive nature of the medium.
We couldn't be further from someone like Marc Andreessan who believes he's a genius and proudly states he has no introspection. Yet we're the ones that take the brunt of criticism. Thanks Epstein for your fucking psyop in the gaming alt right sphere.
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