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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


Friendly reminder: when commenting about a news event, especially something that just happened, please provide a source of some kind. While ideally this would be on nitter or archived, any source is preferable to none at all given.

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

What happens if China suddenly decides to dump all US T bonds tomorrow?

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[-] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

Heard that the Zapatistas dissolved their autonomous government just now, they need not worry, I got the perfect guy to lead them into the future.

I present to you, the interim autonomous government personified, Juan Guaido! guaido

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[-] newmou@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

I’ve seen a watermelon symbol showing up here and there at some rallies, what’s it’s referencing? I’m not on Twitter

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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~Shout out to Jamaal Bowman~~ for not only tweeting about the R9X Hellfire that Genocide Joe delivered to Israel to use on journalists, but also for actually tweeting out the video of the strike and the aftermath.The US media will never fucking show it, and the public needs to see it.

Nevermind, he deleted his tweet, he's a complete loser again.

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[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1723749527344091509 https://nitter.net/AryJeay/status/1723749527344091509~~

~~🚨 All patients in the intensive care unit at Al-Shifa hospital in Gaza have died due to fuel shortages, power cuts, and the relentless siege of the occupation…~~

~~No words …~~

~~can't wait for biden to call doubt on the death toll again~~

Looks like miscommunication again https://twitter.com/4noura/status/1723760502180876297

This has been debunked. Awaiting further information

#URGENT 5 Newborn babies in the incubators and 7 patients in the intensive care unit have died due to the ongoing Israeli aggression and siege on Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza, no electricity, no water or fuel. There are 700 patients and 15,000 displaced ppl in the hospital, according to medical sources in the hospital. #GazaGenocide

https://twitter.com/wafa_Gaza/status/1723764793616601186

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

I wonder if it was a sniper team with those anti material rifles we saw that killed Netanyahu's nephew or whether he got owned by the marxist mortar gang.

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[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

On the news of the supposed mein kampf shit narrative they're trying to push, all I can say is this world is just one god damn stupid meme. All those times we talked so much about the openly nazi symbols found in literaly every PR picture from the Ukrainian army over and over.

But nah if anyone still remembers when the Russians went through the Azov base in Mariupol.

Not just one copy of Mein Kampf but two even! And of course the other horrors too e.g the tortured corpses found in the basements, its all still there on RU telegram channels.

Also this one was a meme and most likely fake but still god damn funny too.

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So Liberal Socialist has reincarnated into a CIAnarchist and its the funnies shit ever https://hexbear.net/post/1022956

should I post on dunktank? there's almost too much content. And they're still goin!

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[-] Melina@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

I’m about to stage a coup in Israel

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[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

electoralismNBC: 'Five-alarm fire': Democratic frustrations with Biden spill into the open

Some quotes:

Biden has given no indication he is interested in dropping out. Nor does his campaign team seem to be sweating the New York Times/Siena College poll that showed him losing to Republican Donald Trump in five of the six swing states that he captured in his 2020 victory.

"Once more regular people are tuning in, our record will come into focus," this person added.

:yea:

The divisions within the party over the month-old war echo the searing debate over the Vietnam War, which caused then-President Lyndon Johnson to forego a re-election bid in 1968.

:leo-point:

Filing deadlines for the New Hampshire and Nevada primaries have already passed, and South Carolina’s deadline is Friday. Candidates have only until Dec. 8 to file for the ballot in Michigan, which will move into the early-state window in 2024 for the first time. And numerous other states, including delegate-rich ones like Texas and California, have deadlines in mid-December, leaving precious little time for prospective challengers to jump in.

popcorn-time

While party rules provide for changing the nominee at the convention and even after, the process is messy, untested and likely to result in litigation. Moreover, Biden controls the Democratic National Committee through allies he appointed, as is standard practice, and the party apparatus is already enmeshed in Biden’s campaign.

Indeed, the DNC re-wrote the primary calendar at Biden’s behest, moving up South Carolina, which Biden won in 2020, and demoting New Hampshire and Iowa, which he lost.

lea-think

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[-] jontifa@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[-] Cunigulus@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

It seems like a race against time for the Israelis. Eventually the genocide will put enough stress on their neighbors' and allies' political systems that their geopolitical situation will begin to deteriorate. How much genocide can they pull off in the meantime? I think they will keep going until something breaks, but once there are real geopolitical consequences the Israelis will have to attempt to deescalate. Whether that will work or not will depend on the particular breaking point. If the US gets forced out of Iraq and Syria by military attacks some kind of pause might be enough to stabilize the situation, if it's a military coup in Egypt or Jordan de-escalation might not be an option. Israel will not stop of their own accord, and Hamas really only has the military power to delay the ethnic cleansing operation. There will be no big arrow counteroffensives or encirclements (outside of tactical ambushes), but they can make the Israelis pay for every block of Gaza City. Given all that the Israeli political leadership has on the line, there will be a greater than normal tolerance for casualties. They will lie about the numbers rather than jeopardize their ability to continue the operation. This situation is set up in such a way that the Israelis are going overplay their hand, and these kind of situations lead to horrible spirals of violence all the time in history. Even nuclear war is becoming a possibility.

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[-] jontifa@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

imagine how pissed all those GWOT vets are that they spent so much time covering up their war crimes and sleeping through ROE briefings just for Israel to get this much of a green light

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://newrepublic.com/article/176781/open-letter-why-leaving-democratic-socialists-america
https://archive.ph/trVIb
DSA just got a lot more based today, hopefully more losers follow soon

Some choice parts to laugh at:

so people don't have to scroll past long thing putting it in spoiler

We were elated by the explosive growth of DSA that began in 2016, followed by the election of more than 100 DSA members to elective office. In such figures as Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman, Cori Bush, Summer Lee, and Greg Casar, we cheered a new generation of progressive political leadership in the United States. It seemed that we could finally join other nations in having a meaningful democratic socialist presence in our political mainstream.

you know you're about to be reading some libshit when they start getting named

In recent years, however, we have been deeply troubled by the emergence of isolating, purist, and self-destructive tendencies inside DSA that have undermined its promise. The very strength of the regenerated DSA is in its electoral work and its high-profile, politically astute elected officials, and yet they came under attack from within. Ocasio-Cortez was condemned for stating that Israel had a right to exist, and Bowman was subjected to a vicious campaign for his expulsion from DSA because of his refusal to endorse the Boycott-Divestment-Sanctions, or BDS, movement, as well as for his connections with Jewish peace organizations in the U.S. and Israel.

good

In our judgment, a moment of truth has arrived. The events of the last weeks in Israel and Palestine, and the responses of national DSA and many of its local chapters, bring us to the painful conclusion that today’s DSA has driven itself beyond redemption. In a moment of crisis, it has been found entirely wanting in its dedication to the moral principles that are the foundation of democratic socialism. DSA’s leaders, who are the public face of the organization, lack the political and strategic acumen needed to navigate a perilous moment fraught with danger. The positions they have taken on behalf of the organization lack basic human empathy and solidarity.

Lick my balls you moralizing nerds

In the face of the wanton slaughter of innocents by Hamas, the calculated and depraved cruelty of its premeditated murder and kidnapping of the defenseless, including children and the elderly, several DSA locals—including its flagship New York City chapter—and the DSA International Committee promoted cheerleading demonstrations in support of Hamas’s actions.

Things you say when you are for sure not zionist freaks

As the political furor grew in response to its participation in these events celebrating unspeakable acts of murder and cruelty, DSA attempted inept damage control. The statements of the NYC DSA and national DSA did not provide a satisfactory moral clarity. To recount the inhumanity of the Israeli state toward Palestinians, as these statements did, but pass over the culpability of Hamas for the mass murder and kidnapping of innocent and defenseless Israelis, is unacceptable. In its inability to distinguish between acts of resistance to unjust and oppressive rule and acts of terror against civilians, and in its confusion of authentic striving for national liberation with theocratic, fascistic crimes, DSA has shown that it has become completely unmoored from the moral and political foundations of democratic socialism.

More feckless lib moralzing

The principles of democratic socialism demand that we cherish both Israeli and Palestinian lives. All are worthy and sacred and deserve to flourish. Israelis and Palestinians are, in the words of democratic socialist Martin Luther King, “tied together in the single garment of destiny, caught in an inescapable network of mutuality.” Brutal, senseless violence of one against the other only begets more of the same. However distant that path might seem now, the only way forward is to seek a just peace that recognizes and secures the rights and dignity of both peoples.

Misusing a MLK quote? say it aint so, libs surely dont do this all the time!

Holding Hamas responsible and accountable for its actions is morally and politically consistent with holding the Israeli government responsible and accountable for its actions

lol

Even if it came to its senses and understood what harm it has done over the past weeks, and even if it seriously reckoned with the moral and political failings which led to that harm, DSA would be in no position to contribute to that vital work: By its own hand, it has destroyed its moral and political authority to speak on Israel and Palestine, and on much else.

oh my god shut the fuck up please shut the fuck up no one cares about moral authority

We are beginning discussions amongst ourselves, to which we will invite other signatories to this letter, on how to keep the true vision of democratic socialism alive and how we can work together to develop an organizational framework that supports our educational and political work. Join us here.

Please do so DSA can continue to move left and be cool

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gaza's al-Quds Hospital ceases operations amid Israeli attacks | Al Jazeera

The enclave’s second largest hospital is facing fuel shortage, threatening the lives of people seeking treatment and shelter.

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The head of the WHO...

.@WHO has managed to get in touch with health professionals at the Al-Shifa hospital in #Gaza.

The situation is dire and perilous.

It's been 3 days without electricity, without water and with very poor internet which has severely impacted our ability to provide essential care.

The constant gunfire and bombings in the area have exacerbated the already critical circumstances.

Tragically, the number of patient fatalities has increased significantly.

Regrettably, the hospital is not functioning as a hospital anymore.

The world cannot stand silent while hospitals, which should be safe havens, are transformed into scenes of death, devastation, and despair.

Ceasefire. NOW.

Nitter

A reply

It's interesting to me that the WHO is not calling for the release of the hostages.

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[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 1 year ago

Thought: if a ceasefire manages to come, this is going to provide the resistance enough scrap metal to keep building rockets for an eternity lol

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[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Yemeni air defenses have shot down an American MQ9 Reaper drone

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Three litres – average daily water allocation in Gaza

Even before the war, Palestinians in the besieged Gaza Strip were reeling from a chronic water shortage and a fragile water and sanitation system.

With virtually no potable water, people relied on a polluted and rapidly depleting aquifer. They also purchased water, accessed it from wells or got it through the few desalination plants, as well.

But those were not enough to cover the needs of Gaza’s 2.3 million people. According to the WHO, between 50 and 100 litres of water per person per day are needed.

Now, the UN’s health agency puts the average daily allocation in Gaza at just three litres for their daily needs, which include drinking and hygiene.

-Al Jazeera

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

~55 min ago

Gaza City hospital could shut down in 3 hours due to lack of fuel, Palestine Red Crescent Society says

Gaza City's Al-Quds Hospital could shut down in the coming hours, threatening the lives of patients and babies, the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) warns.

“Al-Quds Hospital is at risk of closure in the upcoming 3 hours due to the depletion of fuel supplies and the non-arrival of aid,” PRCS said in a statement early Saturday local time. “500 patients and injured will be deprived from medical care. Those who are at the ICU and babies in incubators will lose their lives."

On Wednesday, PRCS said it was scaling back most operations amid a fuel shortage to ensure the provision of minimal services.

So far, at least 18 out of Gaza’s 35 functioning hospitals have gone out of service, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Ramallah on Thursday.

The Israeli military has said Hamas is embedding itself in civilian infrastructure and that it will strike Hamas “wherever necessary.”

- CNN

[-] bencarson@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Can someone explain why every leftist (online and on the streets) seems to support PFLP but not DFLP? Did DFLP do something bad, or is it that DFLP just isn't doing enough in their eyes? DFLP is also part of the Democratic Alliance List with PFLP, supports a one-state solution, and the Omar Al-Qasim Forces (their militant wing) have been active alongside the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades (PFLP's militant wing) in storming IDF watchtowers and fighting the IOF. And the DFLP doesn't have any recent history of massacres at synagogues or killing teenagers... Yet I never hear any support for them, see their flags at marches, etc.

Also, noting PSL being accused of opportunism yesterday, can someone explain the beef between PSL and FRSO? Is it ideological or just personal drama?

I am pretty plugged out so please forgive me if these questions sound like attacks.

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[-] KatraCommunist@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Death to Israel

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