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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


Friendly reminder: when commenting about a news event, especially something that just happened, please provide a source of some kind. While ideally this would be on nitter or archived, any source is preferable to none at all given.

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

Last night there was a Kristallnacht vigil in Copenhagen arranged by the Jewish religious community and Danish politicians. It drew huge crowds and had the prime minister as its keynote speaker. This vigil did not have the condemnation of all forms of racism that you find at the usual more left-ish vigils. Speakers spoke solely about Jews and antisemitism, although to their credit they had a minimum of respect and refrained from zionist, islamophobic or similarly racist statements.

What drew attention was not the neonazis standing next to the vigil with a huge banner saying "Fuck Islam" and shouting "Thanks to Netanyahu for declaring war on Islam!" which caused the assembled crowd to boo the neonazis. No, what everyone was talking about was a woman from a small pro-Palestinian protest chanting "Children in Gaza has the right to live".

The protest was approached by foreign minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen who saw an opportunity to play out performative "engagement" with the unwashed masses. As politicians are in these situations Rasmussen was arrogant and dismissive with a veneer of reasonable civility, asking the woman to "calm down" and made nonsensical about Denmark donating a token amount to humanitarian aid in Gaza. When he asked if the woman was angry about the Al-Aqsa Flood, she answered:

No, I'm really not. I'm very happy that Hamas made that decision on October 7th. We've been in fucking prison since 1948.

That statement has caused all chuds in Denmark to go frothingfash and several far right politicians has attempted to pressure the police and government to throw her in prison, deport her or whatever nastiness they can come up with.

One fascist member of the parliamentary justice committee has made a formal inquiry to the ministry of justice, asking whether:

  • A police report about the woman has been made
  • If the police has investigated the "case"
  • Whether charges has been raised
  • If so to make an account on the woman's
    • Nationality
    • Legal residency status
    • Status as a welfare benefit claimant
    • Employment status
    • Whether she has acquired Danish citizenship administratively or by naturalisation either as a main applicant, side applicant or descendant hereof
    • If so, what legal founding she was granted citizenship on, and
    • Her original citizenship
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[-] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

When they fart low we fart high

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[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[-] PostingInternational@lemmygrad.ml 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dr.Finkelstein with uncut and uncensored reply to Bernie.

"I can barely say that name anymore, without being filled with contempt and disgust".

To Bernie: "If you have nothing constructive to say...SHUT UP".

"Hamas needs to be destroyed?" (quoting Bernie) and then gives us facts why Israel is far worse in every respect, stating that given Bernie's arguments, Israel should be destroyed instead. He is absolutely on fire...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R49v3K29mM

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[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

From the BBC: Israel-Gaza: Union members block arms factory in protest over conflict

Over 400 union members involved apparently.

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[-] NPa@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago
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[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

"israel" defenders be like "No, they are not doing genocide because the population in Gaza grew"

Actual "israeli" officials: "Yeah, we're doing a second Nakba."

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago
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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

An important fact to consider is that not all tanks in any military's inventory are combat ready, out of the 2,200 tanks Israel possesses they state 1,730 are combat ready, frankly I think that number is ridiculously high, we're talking a majority of tanks being decades old and held by a military already proven to be incompetent and lax

I wouldn't be surprised if only 40% of their inventory are remotely combat ready, and every day that passes the maintenance needs continue to build up and tanks that were combat ready suddenly aren't, 30% of US vehicles broke down on the three-week march to Baghdad in 2003 without any intervention by the enemy

Just something to keep in mind, one of the greatest virtues of guerrilla warfare is it places the bulk of the logistical burden on the conventional force

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago
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[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

Zionists are wheeling out their white children props. One simple trick to save his life: stop carpet bombing Gaza

Haha whoopsie, I forgot that the life of a single white child is worth more than a million brown savages. More genocide now!

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

Let's all point and laugh at this webpage on how to spread Zionist propaganda: https://israelunderfire.net/best-practices/

The world is overwhelmingly with us right now (mainly in Western countries, even including those that are usually critical of us).

lol

Who?

Non-Jews in Western democracies (other messaging is needed for Jewish audiences).

95% of messaging for a Zionist audience is "Death to Arabs" repeated in a loop.

DO NOT explain Israel’s policy

The issue here is not the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as a whole. It is very difficult for us to win there. October 7 is about war crimes committed by Hamas, an organization that people abroad for some reason do not perceive as terrorists, no matter how much we try to say that they are. Now there is proof. It’s our 9/11, and that’s a relatable analogy for most Westerners.

Gee, I wonder why.

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[-] WilsonWilson@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

Them: bans 'from the river to the sea'

Me: 'from a natural stream of fresh water that flows in a channel with defined banks to a large body of salt water partially surrounded by land'

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[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

Not sure if this has been posted but in today's UN assembly, Israel's UN Ambassador Gilad Erdan has called the UN, WHO, and literally everyone else as working for Hamas (twitter)

Many UNRWA workers in Gaza are themselves members of Hamas. The time has come to bust the myth of UN supplied facts

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[-] DanicaTheRebel@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

It bothers me greatly that Arab countries are doing virtually nothing beyond making empty statements about the Gaza genocide.

Post Soviet Russia has many L's but even they had the foresight to intervene in Ukraine and Georgia before they were able to launch their genocides.

[-] professionalduster@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

the Arab states are much closer to being US client states than post-ussr Russia is

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[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

This is how you distinguish real vs “organic” protests btw, real protestors don’t get hours-long specials on prime time TV like the China Human Rights NGO ghouls

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

I've had a few conversations with Irish people about the Troubles over the years, and I gotta say, the dichotomy between the understanding of the Troubles I've gotten from academic sources; An extremely political conflict between ideological Irish paramilitaries on one side and British foreign and military intelligence on the other, with Britain very deliberately using right wing and fascist proxies to commit massacres to drive up the body count, prop up the religious conflict narrative, and undermine and dismiss the political character of the conflict, is kind of profound. "Well both sides were bad and it was all senseless sectarian violence" is the narrative I hear from Irish people a lot, whereas the academics mostly position it as the tail end of an anti-colonial struggle with the British government being major drivers of violence as they passed arms and intelligence to various Unionists and just outright murderers.

Also something I don't hear much about from Irish people is the initial civil rights protests in Northern Ireland, contemporary with the US Civil Rights movement, that resulted in a harsh crackdown from the British backed by Unionist violence, and was the proximate cause that escalated from relatively low violence protest to armed paramilitary forces. Folks talk like the troubles just happened, with no real cause or origin.

Idk. It's weird. Outsider perspectives vs insider perspectives, different narratives, different sources of information and knowledge.

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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

The BDS working group has split from the DSA

We, as an organization, are no longer affiliated with the Democratic Socialists of America and, moving forward, will be known simply as the Palestine Solidarity Working Group.

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

Zionists have resorted to ~~paying~~ giving people microgrants to show up to protests: https://nitter.cz/namoooseh/status/1722356557764001958

The direct link: https://israelcc.org/apply-for-a-microgrant/

Thank you for all your requests to attend the March for Israel Rally. We are pleased to announce that we have successfully allocated funding to help thousands of students attend the event.

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[-] professionalduster@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk-lawmakers-urge-govt-proscribe-irans-revolutionary-guard-2023-11-12/

British lawmakers and members of the upper house of parliament have called on the government to proscribe Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organisation, saying it would be a step towards restoring stability to the Middle East.

saying it would be a step towards restoring stability to the Middle East.

marx-joker

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[-] SnAgCu@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

new type of confused pro israel guy: "how dare Hamas take hostages knowing full well the IDF would indiscriminately kill them"

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[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

Wishing every IOF tank gets 🔻

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[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

The amount of people fervently trying to pretend that Israel isn't a settler colonialist state when we have thousands of examples of settlers and Israeli leaders going "We are doing settler colonialism and it is great actually" is baffling.

And then seeing the "well Israelis are there now, should they just leave?" from the same people who argue that Palestinians should just leave is going to give me an aneurism.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

70% of people in Gaza are displaced with many living in inhumane conditions, UN agency says

I usually give a quote or quote the whole thing but just the title was too much for me. In just ~15 minutes I've read one awful update after another. I didn't even want to glance at the text of that one. I didn't mean to but I read "thousands of cases of acute respiratory, skin infections, diarrhea, and chicken pox".

[-] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trying to break through a huge LIB wall of "it's complicated" with my Dad on the Palestinian genocide. I told him about the March of Return protests in 2018-19.

He also had no idea that the Palestinian Authority even existed with Israel's full permission and that the West Bank was a separate piece of land from Gaza that has nothing to do with Hamas.

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

The most critical element guaranteeing Israel's defeat remains Egypt, Israel's ethnic cleansing plan spoke of an incredible lack of knowledge of internal Egyptian politics especially concerning the military, Israel's defeat was sealed the minute they hedge everything on pushing 2.3 million people into the Sinai, THE most politically sensitive region of Egypt

The arrogant fascism of Israeli society assumed the US could pressure the Sisi regime into actions that would guarantee its overthrow, a comprador will sacrifice his fellows, but he won't sacrifice himself

Hamas threaded the needle and revealed the genocidal nature lurking at the heart of that Nazi state, tying all factions in the region inevitably into a reckoning whether they want it or not

And I haven't even brought up the internal divisions ripening in Israel

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

what this doesn't come out and say is nonetheless very loud

🔻 The US Military Command in Europe claims that five US soldiers were killed when "their plane crashed over the eastern Mediterranean Sea" on Friday.

from https://t.me/PalestineResist/19178

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago
[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

quirked up hamas fighter with a little bit of swag busts a tank down jihad style. is he goated with the sauce?

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[-] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago
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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

A doctor in Gaza

11 surgeries back to back today

11 broken bodies

11 shattered lives

11 stories of heartbreak, sorrow and grief over loved ones slain

11 Palestinians betrayed by a humanity that sides with powerfull against the rightious

11 unknown futures without loved ones

Nitter

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[-] buh@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

I feel like covid has been memory-holed so hard even the libs who were very mad at China for "starting" the pandemic wouldn't mention it if you asked them to list their top grievances with China. it would probably be Taiwan, Uyghurs, and ties to Russia, in that order.

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[-] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Paxlovid does not prevent Long Covid

Multivariable logistic regression models controlled for age, sex, race/ethnicity, chronic conditions, and COVID-19 vaccination status. We found that participants who took nirmatrelvir/ritonavir were no less likely to develop long COVID symptoms, compared to those who did not take the medication (44% vs. 49.6%, p = 0.21). Taking nirmatrelvir/ritonavir was associated with a lower odds of two of the eleven long COVID symptoms, brain fog (OR 0.58, 95% CI 0.38–0.88) and chest pain/tightness (OR 0.51, 95% CI 0.28–0.91). Our finding that treatment with nirmatrelvir/ritonavir was not associated with a lower risk of developing long COVID is different from prior studies that obtained data only from electronic medical records.

yea

[-] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Timothy Snyder writing about how Ukraine is the battle for democracy “of the century” on the very same day Zelenskyy declares no elections in Ukraine.

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[-] geikei@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

President Xi says we can have a little Maoism, as a treat xi-peel

Xi meets with representatives of grassroots units applying 'Fengqiao model'

What is the Fengqiao model? Generaly speaking, a mass line based model developed and advocated in Mao’s era that directed the masses themselves at the local level to carry out the on-site “rectification” of “reactionary elements” in society promoting greater degrees of local self-governance and "decentralizing" class struggle. The “Fengqiao experience” ,named after Fengqiao Township, was the process of mobilizing the masses in order to “strengthen the dictatorship over class enemies.” Here is how the top Party leader of Fengqiao District at the time (early 60s) reflected back on it:

During the National People’s Congress in 1963, the minister of public security, Xie Fuzhi (谢富治), gave a speech called, “Relying on the Strength of the Masses, Strengthening the People’s Democratic Dictatorship, Transforming the Majority of ‘Reactionary Elements’ into New People” (依靠群众力量,加强人民民主专政,把绝大多数“四类分子”改造成新人). Xie’s speech made specific mention of the example provided by Fengqiao.

On November 20, 1963, Mao Zedong added his written instructions to the Xie Fuzhi speech, in which he said: “The example of Zhuji raised here is a good one — various regions should follow this example, expanding the work through pilot programs.” Before the Cultural Revolution, the ministry of public security released materials about Fengqiao, but the People’s Daily never reported on these. On December 21, 1977, the People’s Daily published the piece from the top Party leader of Fengqiao District quoted above. That piece was called, “Raising High the Red Flag of Fengqiao Erected by Mao Zedong, Relying on the Masses to Strengthen Dictatorship"

In the struggle against the enemy, arrest is necessary and proper only for a small number of class enemies; as for those you can choose to arrest or not, none should be arrested; you must mobilize the masses to carry out a struggle of reason, to deal with the enemies, carrying out on-site monitoring and rehabilitation, without the need to submit issues to higher authorities. This experience was affirmed and praised by the greater leader and teacher Mao Zedong.

Until recently, no top Chinese leader since Mao Zedong had ever been quoted publicly in the People’s Daily or other state media making remarks on the “Fengqiao experience.” But in 2013, marking the 50th anniversary of Mao Zedong’s written instructions, Xi Jinping broke this pattern by issuing “important instructions on the development of the ‘Fengqiao experience’." But the focus and promotion of the model has increased considerably in the last few years.

In the report of the 20th National Congress it was clearly directed that that the "Fengqiao Experience" in the new era must be upheld and developed at the grassroots level of society and based on it the mechanism for correctly handling contradictions among the people under the new situation should be improved. To facilitate and regulate the expression of public demands, coordinate interests and safeguard rights.

In March 2023, Xi again emphasized the need to uphold and develop the "Fengqiao Experience" in the new era, improve the mechanism for correctly handling conflicts among the people under the new situation, and promptly resolve conflicts and disputes at the grassroots level and in the bud by involving the masses in the identification of elements ,practices or people that must be reformed. During the Hangzhou Asian Games, Xi made a special trip to inspect the Fengqiao Museum and affirmed the great historical and practical significance of the "Fengqiao Experience".

The other day, along with the meetup i originaly linked Xi met with like 4 heads of state (including the Australian dumbass) ,yet his meeting with cadre representatives of the "fengqiao model" was the frontpage news on the People's Daily and other state media over them

To end with some interesting (optimistic and with a bunch of assumptions) food for thought. The "common prosperity" project, lauded as the next stage in socialism with chinese chracteristics and specificaly its "pilot" in Zhejiang, aimed to be completed by the mid 30s, calls , among other things, for "adjusting income distribution" and "adjusting excessive income". No specifics have been given on how that wealth redistribution will be achieved but it is notable that county-level social conflict and dispute mediation and resolution centers have been also a behind the scenes focus of the "common prosperity" pilot in Zhenjiang and its also the province with the most developed and widespread grassroots "fengqiao model" system

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[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Interview with a settler

Absolutely unhinged stuff

What are the borders of that Jewish nation?

The borders of the homeland of the Jews are the Euphrates in the east and the Nile in the southwest.

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[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

The shittiest propaganda you’ve ever seen <3

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[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago
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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel now says 1,200 were killed not 1,400. It's funny how that works.

Israel adjusts death toll from 7 October attacks to 1,200

Israel has revised downwards the death toll from last month’s Hamas attacks in the south of the country from 1,400 to about 1,200, a foreign ministry spokesman said on Friday.

“This is the updated number,” the spokesperson, Lior Haiat, told AFP.

“It is due to the fact that there were lot of corpses that were not identified and now we think those belong to terrorists not Israeli casualties.”

Israel previously said Hamas fighters who poured across the heavily militarized border on 7 October killed 1,400 people, mostly civilians, the news agency said. Friday’s statement now says that “about 1,200 people” were murdered by Hamas.

- The Guardian

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